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Why do we have both the Netherlands and Holland listed? - --Mischa 13:01, 3 November 2006 (EST)

Clearly a mistake. I think it's because the usage in BRef is not always consistent between the two names. We should use the Netherlands. --Philippe 15:44, 3 November 2006 (EST)

Two problems with this list. 1. Czechoslovakia did not exist in 1885. I could understand this if the logic was "he was born in what is now Czechoslovakia", but Czechoslovakia doesn't exist now either. See, for example, Danny Graves. He was born in what was then South Vietnam, and he is listed as the first major leaguer from that country. He isn't listed as being born in Vietnam which is what it is now. 2. Every US born player on the field and the batter, if he was US born, when Bobby Mathews threw that first pitch should share the honor with him. Kinston eagle 22:29, 2 December 2007 (EST)

Just a couple other things. Okinawa is not a country. It is part of Japan.

As long as we are including defunct nations like S. Vietnam, Czechoslovakia, W. Germany, and British Honduras, I thought it might be nice to include the Confederate States of America. I found three guys born in the CSA who all made their debut on May 1, 1884: John Peltz, Charlie Ferguson, and Jack Beach. If anyone can determine which hit the field earliest on that day, we can include the name on the table. Kinston eagle 23:04, 2 December 2007 (EST)

We also have the issue of Steve Bellan, who was born in Cuba when Cuba was part of Spain; Bellan is listed under Cuba but not Spain. - --Mischa 09:40, 3 December 2007 (EST)

Cuba was a Spanish colony until the Spanish-American War, but it was not part of Spain. There was an interesting article on players from defunct countries in one of the SABR journals circa 2004. The first player from Hawaii was actually born when it was the independent Kingdom of Hawaii, and one other player was born in Alberta pre-1905, which was the Northwest Territories. Also see the entry for Rybnik for more similar fun concerning Central Europe. --Philippe 10:45, 3 December 2007 (EST)

Do we change Cross to Austrian Empire here? --Jeff 15:28, 25 November 2008 (EST)

That would make more sense than having him represent a country that didn't exist while he was alive. By the way, I have been looking, and have not been able to find exactly what city Cross is from. It would be great to know whether he is from what is now the Czech Republic or the Slovak Republic. Complicating matters is the liklihood that Cross is an Americanized version of the name he was born with. This is some interest to me as I am half Slovak myself. Would the new first Czechoslovakian be Elmer Valo? Kinston eagle 19:44, 25 November 2008 (EST)

For the U.S. Virgin Islands, note that Joe Christopher came after Valmy Thomas, whose Puerto Rican birth is a technicality. Valmy's mother went there because the hospital was better but came home immediately to St. Croix. VIBaseball 4 December 2008

Thanks. I made a notation. - --Mischa 13:04, 4 December 2008 (EST)

Numbers need to be updated - --Mischa 12:12, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

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