Talk:Kansas City Cowboys

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Do we need a separate page for all the minor league K.C. Cowboys, or should we put them here? --Jeff 15:19, 24 February 2007 (EST)

I feel this combined grouping is too confusing. There are several different teams, but it almost looks like a single team covering a 20-year period in several different leagues. The Union Association team wasn't known as the "Cowboys" contemporaneously; in all my research , I've never seen it called anything but the "Unions" or "Kaycees". It had no nickname.

There is also a problem with the teams/leagues listed. Kansas City had at least one professional baseball team continuously from 1884 through 1967, but this list makes it look like there were gaps in the 1880s and 90s.

So, in short, I believe the Kansas City teams from the UA, AA, and NL should be listed separately, though I don't honestly know whether a short-lived minor league club from the 1890s should have its own article. -- Couillaud 14:17, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

The major league teams could easily be removed from the chart with a note in the header (i.e. Buffalo Bisons). However, all the other minor league teams using the same name, even in different leagues, are listed on the same page in the same chart. Writing the copy is not my strong suit, so I have stuck to putting charts with basic data on the page for now, with the theory that information in paragraph form can be filled in later. --Jeff 14:33, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

I guess my problem is that the two articles (this one and Kansas City Blues) are occasionally talking about the same team on two different pages. The Cowboys of 1903 was the same team as the Blues of 1904-54, while the Blues of the 1901-03 Western League was totally separate from the AA Blues. It just feels that putting two (or more) separate entities into one article just because they share a nickname (and in the 1800s, nicknames were not always official) is more than a bit confusing. The Omaha Royals were the Omaha Golden Spikes for a few seasons, but it doesn't merit separate articles based on a changed name.

Just a thought, and I'd be willing to do the research and writing, but I'd like to see the three major league teams have separate articles, a single article for the Kansas City Blues of the AA (1902-54), and another article to identify the other KC minor league team that played under both names and in two different leagues from 1890 till 1900, though their continuity went all the way back to 1885, suspending play in '86 and merging with the AA team in '89 before returning to the WA.--Couillaud 00:25, 2 May 2008 (EDT)

Actually, the Omaha Royals and Omaha Golden Spikes do have different articles. That's exactly how we've been doing minor league teams. Any team that had a specific name has been going on the same page. Having a seperate article for each of the major league teams is also what we've had. --Jeff 02:43, 2 May 2008 (EDT)