Talk:Disambiguation
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Is there a way to get a notice if there is a link to a disambiguation page? Someone might type George Bell or Randy Johnson in, not realizing there were multiple players with those names. If we could have a feature that notified of such links, then we could ensure proper direction. - --Mischa 17:48, 23 Jan 2006 (EST)
We could do what wikipedia does. They put on a blurb like this one for "Philadelphia".
"Philadelphia" redirects here. For other uses, see Philadelphia (disambiguation).
The disambiguation would mention Philadelphia, Mississippi and the film Philadelphia.
"Randy Johnson" redirects here. For the Randy Johnson (1980-82), click here. Check out Randy Johnson for what I mean. --Scott 18:39, 23 Jan 2006 (EST)
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[edit] A list is wanted
Tonight I'd like to take care of several of these, George Bell, Pete Rose, and Bob Gibson come to mind. Anyone else that is super more famous than the little known counterpart? --Scott 18:53, 23 Jan 2006 (EST)
Maybe we should come up with some ground rules. Some suggestions for which players should be considered important enough to skip the disambiguation:
- Active players, if the other players were retired before the current player started playing
- HOFers, if no other player on the list is active
- If all players with the same name are retired, one who has far more playing time than any other
Some examples: Eddie Collins, Hal Trosky, Joe Morgan, Bill Mueller, Bernie Williams. --Roger 19:25, 23 Jan 2006 (EST)
Looking, I can now see that each page has a view counter. It would make sense to see if one player has far more views than the others. If it does, it would make sense to make the primary link to the popular page with redirects going to other pages. --Roger 21:11, 23 Jan 2006 (EST)
[edit] What are your thoughts on...
The Griffeys? Junior is a far superior player but Sr. was a mighty good one too. Cal Ripken also needs to go right to Cal Jr. --Scott 20:14, 23 Jan 2006 (EST)
I think that it makes sense to link straight to Junior. His page has about 4 times as many page views as Senior's does. I think that's good enough reason to send views his way. --Roger 21:11, 23 Jan 2006 (EST)
A couple other ideas: Pedro Martinez, Brian Giles, Ed Walsh. - --Mischa 18:25, 24 Jan 2006 (EST)
[edit] I made a list...
but today I was responsible for after care so I left it in the classroom. I may scribble down another tonight. There were about 15 names on the list from the really, really long ago (Wild Bill Donovan) to the more recent. --Scott 18:41, 24 Jan 2006 (EST)
[edit] One more
Here's another couple - Billy Williams and Mike Garcia. - --Mischa 18:24, 23 Feb 2006 (EST)
I did Garcia and Williams. Any others? --Scott 23:51, 23 Feb 2006 (EST)
How about Bill White? - --Mischa 21:23, 28 Feb 2006 (EST)
Bill White now links directly to the former NL prez. --Scott 23:58, 28 Feb 2006 (EST)
Bill James now links directly to the author. --Roger 00:17, 12 May 2006 (EDT)
[edit] Same Given Name, Different Nicknames (or one uses nickname, the other doesn't)
Here's an example:
The name "Jack Robinson" appears in the Category: Disambiguation list. Clicking on it brings me to a page reading:
There have been multiple Jack Robinson's in major league history.
Jack Robinson (robinja01) - player from 1902-1902
Jack Robinson (robinja03) - player from 1949-1949
I hadn't heard of either of these guys before. However, I was expecting to find, and figured others clicking on this name would also expect to find, Jack Roosevelt "Jackie" Robinson, the barrier-breaking star of the Brooklyn Dodgers from 1947-1956.
Incidentally, by clicking on both of the above Jack Robinsons, I learned that both had the given name of John. John is also the given first name of Jack Morris, the pitching star with Detroit and a few other teams (including the 1991 World Series winning Twins) from 1977-1994. There was another John Morris, who played under the name of John Morris, who was active for some of the same years as Jack Morris. John Morris was an outfielder who was a major leaguer between 1986 and 1992, mainly for the Cardinals. Clicking on the name "John Morris" in the Category: Disambiguation list page, I get a page reading:
There have been multiple John Morris's in major league history.
John Morris (morrijo06) - player from 1966-1974
John Morris (morrijo07) - player from 1986-1992
As a newcomer to BR Bullpen, I'm wondering if it's already been decided to only include players who played under the same name in a disambiguation situation. The Morris situation is marginal, since few people would probably think to look for pitching star Jack Morris under John Morris. But I think it's conceivable that people would type in "Jack Robinson" when actually looking for Jackie Robinson. I just put "Jack Robinson" into the search box and got the same page that lists those two guys who were only in the majors for one year apiece.
I don't know how to sign these entries yet (the actual wikipedia has a template with squiggly lines I can click on), but I am DoubleDiamond, sponsor of the Milt Thompson and Tom Ferrick pages on Baseball Reference.
--- The same squiggly symbol should be at the top of the edit page here too as one of the tools. I don't think too many people think of Jack Morris as John, but in some cases, it makes sense, especially some of the Bill/Billy or John/Johnny types where a bad link could easily occur. - --Mischa 20:49, 6 November 2006 (EST)
