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John Henry Lloyd

Inducted into Hall of Fame in 1977

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"I am honored to have John Lloyd called the Black Wagner. It is a privilege to have been compared to him." — Honus Wagner, quoted at Lloyd's Hall of Fame website

John Henry ("Pop") Lloyd was a Negro League shortstop, who was often considered an equal to his white contemporary Honus Wagner. He played for the Cuban X-Giants (1906), Philadelphia Giants (1907-1909), Leland Giants (1910), New York Lincoln Giants (1911-1913, 1926-1930), Chicago American Giants (1914-1917), New York Lincoln Stars (1915), Brooklyn Royal Giants (1918-1920), New York Bacharach Giants (1919), Columbus Buckeyes (1921), Atlantic City Bacharach Giants (1922, 1924-1925, 1931-1932), Hilldale Daisies (1923), and Harlem Stars (1931). He managed the Brooklyn Royal Giants (1918-1920), Columbus Buckeyes (1921), New York Bacharachs (1922), and Hilldale Daisies (1923).

"He looked like he was gliding over to the ball. You could hardly see his feet move." - Judy Johnson, from the book Blackball Stars

Most sources continue to list his year of death as 1965, but he actually died in 1964. An obituary appears in the April 4, 1964 issue of The Sporting News, and the Social Security death index confirms the year. The 2007 ESPN Encyclopedia also recognizes the change. The SABR website presently show it under Frank Phelps' log of Sporting News obituaries (1930-1991).

[edit] Negro Leagues Career Statistics

Year Age Team League G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB BB BA SLG
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1906 22 Cuban X-Giants independent 3 12 - 0 0 0 0 - 0 0 .000 .000
1907 23 Philadelphia Stars independent -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
1908 24 Philadelphia Stars independent -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
1909 25 Philadelphia Stars independent 2 8 - 6 1 0 0 - 0 - .750 .875
1910 26 Chicago Leland Giants independent 11 42 - 15 2 0 0 - 0 - .357 .405
1911 27 New York Lincoln Giants independent 1 4 - 3 0 0 1 - 0 - .750 1.500
1912 28 New York Lincoln Giants independent 11 42 4 9 1 0 0 3 3 2 .214 .238
1913 29 New York Lincoln Giants independent 15 56 12 22 1 2 0 9 2 5 .393 .482
1914 30 Chicago American Giants independent 48 188 36 57 12 5 0 30 7 19 .303 .420
1915 31 New York Lincoln Stars
Chicago American Giants
independent
independent
29
18
117
70
18
14
48
22
9
3
1
0
0
1
20
16
5
0
7
5
.410
.314
.504
.400
1916 32 Chicago American Giants independent 62 223 38 75 9 2 1 34 6 20 .336 .408
1917 33 Chicago American Giants independent 53 188 23 54 11 6 0 34 5 15 .287 .410
1918 34 Brooklyn Royal Giants independent 18 71 12 25 3 2 0 13 1 6 .352 .451
1919 35 Brooklyn Royal Giants
Atlantic City Bacharach Giants
independent
independent
3
16
10
60
1
7
2
22
0
5
1
1
0
0
2
10
0
5
2
4
.200
.367
.400
.483
1920 36 Brooklyn Royal Giants independent 17 66 6 20 2 2 0 6 3 4 .303 .394
1921 37 Columbus Buckeyes NNL 90 362 65 126 20 8 0 54 24 25 .348 .448
1922 38 New York Bacharach Giants NNL (associate) 60 247 45 76 16 0 2 6 9 12 .308 .397
1923 39 Hilldale ECL 41 150 34 55 13 1 2 23 5 9 .367 .507
1924 40 Bacharach Giants ECL 55 203 36 74 11 2 1 43 7 18 .365 .453
1925 41 Bacharach Giants ECL 60 217 42 72 7 5 3 17 13 27 .332 .452
1926 42 NY Lincoln Giants ECL 46 169 26 61 7 3 1 7 5 24 .361 456
1927 43 Lincoln Giants independent 20 77 14 24 7 0 1 3 0 5 .312 .442
1928 44 Lincoln Giants ECL 31 122 28 49 4 1 5 12 4 9 .402 .574
1929 45 Lincoln Giants ANL 35 131 29 41 11 3 2 11 2 14 .374 . 550
1930 44 Lincoln Giants ANL 42 156 27 58 5 1 1 11 6 11 .372 .436
1932 48 New York Bacharach Giants independent 5 19 4 6 0 0 1 2 0 1 .316 .474
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Total 26 seasons 810 3062 (528) 1042 161 56 22 (366) 114 (246) .340 .452
per 162 g 5.00 162 612 108 208 32 11 4 75 23 50 .340 .452

Sources:

  • 1906-1911: The Baseball Encyclopedia, Macmillan, 10th Edition, pgs 2795-2796
  • 1912-1923: www.seamheads.com, from research by Gary Ashwill and Kevin Johnson
  • 1924-1932: Shades of Glory, Hogan et al., pp. 390–393

[edit] Sources

  • Connelsville (PA) Daily Courier, March 20, 1964, page 6: "John Henry Lloyd, Greatest Negro Player, Dies at 79"

[edit] Further Reading

  • Wes Singletary: The Right Time: John Henry "Pop" Lloyd and Black Baseball, McFarland, Jefferson, NC, 2011.

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