Category talk:Phantom Major Leaguer
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What category does this go under? - --Mischa 13:30, 4 January 2007 (EST)
The 1986 Guide lists a John E. Kimble in the necrology as being on the Brooklyn roster twice during the regular season without ever playing. --Just me 16:14, 19 January 2007 (EST)
Does the Guide list the years he was on the roster or anything else about him? Doyle has a Jack Kimble in the minors from 1943-46. He was 17-3 in war-depleted 1945 so might have gotten a call at that time. - --Mischa 21:39, 20 January 2007 (EST)
It says he had a 15 year minor league career in the 30's and 40's in the Dodger, Yankee and Phillies chains. He died April 7 1986, so he was born 1905 or 1906. --Just me 22:38, 20 January 2007 (EST)
The other Kimbles Doyle lists are Dick (1939-1949) and George (1929), neither of whom fit the profile. - --Mischa 14:16, 21 January 2007 (EST)
- Should the category's name be changed to [[:Category:Major Leaguer without a regular season game]].
- A Phantom Major Leaguer or phantom player is usually used to describe players such as Lou Proctor who were either an impostor or whose record was the result of some kind of clerical error
- For instance had any of these players spent 45 days on the active roster they would be barred from future Rookie of the Year Award consideration
- Their time spent on the roster during the regular season (and possibly postseason) counts towards service time, pension, salary, etc.
- --MichaelEng (talk) 15:14, 18 February 2007 (EST)
The 1970 Register has an entry for Dennis Dalton. He was drafted by the Senators from the Braves' chain in December 1968 (first year, not Rule V), but spent the whole 1969 season on the DL. Does he qualify here? --Jeff 00:29, 12 November 2007 (EST)
Not really. That's a rather common occurrence. I think that the category is for players who were on the active roster but never played in a game. --Philippe 12:38, 12 November 2007 (EST)
Anyone wanna re-open the discussion about the name of this category? How about "Player on Active Roster"? "Player without an Appearance"? I think we need to have "Phantom Major Leaguer" as a category for Lou Proctor i.e. --Jeff 16:20, 17 February 2008 (EST)
Could be. Robert Wren played in the minors from 1943-1947, all in the American Association. There was also a Bob Wren who coached Ohio in the 1970 College World Series. Maybe someone at Ohio University can help us? - --Mischa 08:50, 25 February 2008 (EST)
The minor leaguer and the college coach are the same guy I'm pretty sure. Not sure if the minor league manager is the same guy though. Timeline seems to fit. --Jeff 17:36, 25 February 2008 (EST)
Pitcher Mark Leonette was called up briefly for the 1987 Cubs but never appeared in a game.
Page in link is upside down.
--- We have a page for Bob Wren now; did we figure out if he qualified?