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Exhibition Stadium, Attendance: 31,076 |
Tuesday, June 2, 1987 Time of Game: 2:44 |
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Mariners
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27-24
Lost 1
2nd, 1½ GB
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
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Mariners 0 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 3 8 0
Blue Jays 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 X 4 9 0
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Blue Jays
4
29-20
Won 1
2nd, 2 GB
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Batting Stats
Seattle Mariners AB R H RBI BB SO BA OPS Pit Str PO A Details J Moses CF 4 0 1 2 0 0 .285 .711 5 0 2B P Bradley LF 3 0 1 0 1 0 .234 .740 2 0 SB S Bradley C 3 0 0 0 1 0 .325 .758 6 1 K Phelps DH 3 0 1 0 1 1 .292 1.077 0 0 GDP A Davis 1B 4 0 0 0 0 0 .294 .782 5 2 J Presley 3B 4 1 2 1 0 1 .276 .818 1 3 HR M Kingery RF 1 0 0 0 1 0 .273 .733 1 0 J Christensen PH-RF 2 0 0 0 0 1 .283 .640 0 0 GDP R Quinones SS 3 1 1 0 1 0 .279 .735 1 1 GDP H Reynolds 2B 3 1 2 0 0 1 .296 .716 1 1 2B,CS,SH M Moore P 2 1 S Clarke P 0 0 M Trujillo P 0 0 Totals 30 3 8 0 5 4 24 9
Batting Events
2B: J Moses (7, off J Clancy); H Reynolds (11, off J Clancy).
HR: J Presley (11, off J Clancy; 2nd inn, 0 on, 0 outs to LF).
SH: H Reynolds (1, off J Musselman).
TB: J Presley 5; H Reynolds 3; J Moses 2; K Phelps; P Bradley; R Quinones.
GIDP: K Phelps (2); J Christensen (2); R Quinones (6).
RBI: J Moses 2 (17); J Presley (39).
Team LOB: 6.
With RISP: 1 for 8.
Fielding Events
DP: 1. J Presley-H Reynolds-A Davis.
Baserunning Events
SB: P Bradley (18, 2nd base off J Clancy/E Whitt).
CS: H Reynolds (8, 2nd base by J Clancy/E Whitt).
Toronto Blue Jays AB R H RBI BB SO BA OPS Pit Str PO A Details T Fernandez SS 4 0 1 1 0 0 .292 .763 3 3 2B L Moseby CF 4 0 1 0 0 2 .255 .708 4 0 CS W Upshaw 1B 4 0 1 0 0 0 .276 .805 9 1 G Bell LF 4 1 1 1 0 1 .304 .974 2 0 HR,GDP J Barfield RF 3 0 1 0 0 0 .282 .913 1 0 R Mulliniks DH 3 1 2 0 0 0 .283 .729 0 0 E Whitt C 3 1 1 1 0 1 .261 .742 4 1 2B K Gruber 3B 3 1 1 1 0 1 .279 .745 1 1 2B M Lee 2B 3 0 0 0 0 0 .100 .282 3 6 J Clancy P 0 1 J Musselman P 0 0 T Henke P 0 0 Totals 31 4 9 0 0 5 27 13
Batting Events
2B: K Gruber (7, off M Moore); E Whitt (12, off M Moore); T Fernandez (8, off M Moore).
HR: G Bell (17, off M Moore; 2nd inn, 0 on, 0 outs to LF).
TB: G Bell 4; R Mulliniks 2; T Fernandez 2; K Gruber 2; E Whitt 2; L Moseby; J Barfield; W Upshaw.
GIDP: G Bell (8).
RBI: G Bell (43); K Gruber (8); E Whitt (17); T Fernandez (21).
2-out RBI: T Fernandez.
Team LOB: 3.
With RISP: 2 for 5.
Fielding Events
DP: 3. K Gruber-M Lee-W Upshaw; J Clancy-T Fernandez-W Upshaw; T Fernandez-M Lee-W Upshaw.
Baserunning Events
CS: L Moseby (3, 2nd base by M Trujillo/S Bradley).
Pitching Stats
Seattle Mariners IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BF Pit-Str Ct·Sw·Lk GB·FB·LD· ? GmSc IR-IS LevI WPA M Moore, L (2-7) 5.2 8 4 4 0 4 1 4.73 24 - · · 7· 5· 1· 8 41 - 0.69 -0.17 S Clarke 0.1 0 0 0 0 1 0 4.15 1 - · · 0· 0· 0· 0 2-0 1.62 0.04 M Trujillo 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 7.36 6 - · · 0· 5· 0· 1 0-0 0.58 0.08 Totals 8 9 4 4 0 5 1 31 - · · 7·10· 1· 9 2-0
Toronto Blue Jays IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BF Pit-Str Ct·Sw·Lk GB·FB·LD· ? GmSc IR-IS LevI WPA J Clancy 4.1 7 3 3 2 0 1 2.81 20 - · · 6· 5· 2· 7 35 - 1.04 -0.15 J Musselman, W (3-1) 2.1 1 0 0 2 0 0 2.51 8 - · · 3· 2· 0· 1 1-0 1.93 0.25 T Henke, S (9) 2.1 0 0 0 1 4 0 0.95 8 - · · 1· 2· 0· 0 1-0 2.11 0.37 Totals 9 8 3 3 5 4 1 36 - · · 10· 9· 2· 8 2-0
Balks: None.
WP: None.
HBP: None.
IBB: None.
Pickoffs: None.
Other Info
Umpires:
HP - Dave Phillips, 1B - Steve Palermo, 2B - Dan Morrison, 3B - Tim Tschida.
Time of Game: 2:44.
Attendance: 31,076.
Field Condition: Unknown.
Start Time Weather: Unknown.
Lineups
Seattle Mariners Toronto Blue Jays 1. John Moses CF 1. Tony Fernandez SS 2. Phil Bradley LF 2. Lloyd Moseby CF 3. Scott Bradley C 3. Willie Upshaw 1B 4. Ken Phelps DH 4. George Bell LF 5. Alvin Davis 1B 5. Jesse Barfield RF 6. Jim Presley 3B 6. Rance Mulliniks DH 7. Mike Kingery RF 7. Ernie Whitt C 8. Rey Quinones SS 8. Kelly Gruber 3B 9. Harold Reynolds 2B 9. Manuel Lee 2B Mike Moore P Jim Clancy P
Top 5 Plays
Glossary · Click headers to sort · CSV · PRE · View Pitches · wWE and wWPA Explanation| Inn | Out | RoB | R/O | Pit(cnt) | wWPA | wWE | Score | @Bat | Batter | Pitcher | Play Description |
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| t5 | 1 | 1-3 | OO | 16% | 70% | 3-4 | SEA | K. Phelps | J. Musselman | Ground Ball Double Play: SS-2B-1B | |
| t5 | 0 | -23 | RR | -13% | 55% | 1-4 | SEA | J. Moses | J. Clancy | Double to RF; Quinones Scores; Reynolds Scores | |
| b2 | 1 | 1-- | R | 11% | 67% | 1-1 | TOR | E. Whitt | M. Moore | Double to CF; Mulliniks Scores | |
| t5 | 0 | 1-- | -11% | 68% | 1-4 | SEA | H. Reynolds | J. Clancy | Double to RF; Quinones to 3B | ||
| b2 | 0 | --- | R | 10% | 55% | 0-1 | TOR | G. Bell | M. Moore | Home Run |
Play By Play
Glossary · Click headers to sort · CSV · PRE · View Pitches · Box Score Explanation · wWE and wWPA Explanation| Inn | Out | RoB | R/O | Pit(cnt) | wWPA | wWE | Score | @Bat | Batter | Pitcher | Play Description |
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| Top of the 1st, Mariners Batting, Tied 0-0, Blue Jays' Jim Clancy facing 1-2-3 | |||||||||||
| t1 | 0 | --- | O | 2% | 52% | 0-0 | SEA | J. Moses | J. Clancy | Groundout: 2B-1B | |
| t1 | 1 | --- | -2% | 50% | 0-0 | SEA | P. Bradley | J. Clancy | Single to RF | ||
| t1 | 1 | 1-- | O | 3% | 53% | 0-0 | SEA | S. Bradley | J. Clancy | Lineout: CF | |
| t1 | 2 | 1-- | -1% | 52% | 0-0 | SEA | K. Phelps | J. Clancy | Bradley Steals 2B | ||
| t1 | 2 | -2- | -1% | 51% | 0-0 | SEA | K. Phelps | J. Clancy | Walk | ||
| t1 | 2 | 12- | O | 4% | 55% | 0-0 | SEA | A. Davis | J. Clancy | Lineout: RF | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 2 LOB. Mariners 0, Blue Jays 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 1st, Blue Jays Batting, Tied 0-0, Mariners' Mike Moore facing 1-2-3 | |||||||||||
| b1 | 0 | --- | O | -2% | 53% | 0-0 | TOR | T. Fernandez | M. Moore | Flyball: CF | |
| b1 | 1 | --- | O | -2% | 51% | 0-0 | TOR | L. Moseby | M. Moore | Strikeout | |
| b1 | 2 | --- | O | -1% | 50% | 0-0 | TOR | W. Upshaw | M. Moore | Flyball: LF | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Mariners 0, Blue Jays 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 2nd, Mariners Batting, Tied 0-0, Blue Jays' Jim Clancy facing 6-7-8 | |||||||||||
| t2 | 0 | --- | R | -10% | 40% | 0-0 | SEA | J. Presley | J. Clancy | Home Run | |
| t2 | 0 | --- | -3% | 37% | 1-0 | SEA | M. Kingery | J. Clancy | Walk | ||
| t2 | 0 | 1-- | OO | 7% | 44% | 1-0 | SEA | R. Quinones | J. Clancy | Ground Ball Double Play: P-SS-1B | |
| t2 | 2 | --- | -1% | 43% | 1-0 | SEA | H. Reynolds | J. Clancy | Single to RF | ||
| t2 | 2 | 1-- | O | 2% | 45% | 1-0 | SEA | J. Moses | J. Clancy | Reynolds Caught Stealing 2B (C-SS) | |
| 1 run, 2 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Mariners 1, Blue Jays 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 2nd, Blue Jays Batting, Behind 0-1, Mariners' Mike Moore facing 4-5-6 | |||||||||||
| b2 | 0 | --- | R | 10% | 55% | 0-1 | TOR | G. Bell | M. Moore | Home Run | |
| b2 | 0 | --- | O | -2% | 53% | 1-1 | TOR | J. Barfield | M. Moore | Lineout: RF | |
| b2 | 1 | --- | 3% | 56% | 1-1 | TOR | R. Mulliniks | M. Moore | Single to LF | ||
| b2 | 1 | 1-- | R | 11% | 67% | 1-1 | TOR | E. Whitt | M. Moore | Double to CF; Mulliniks Scores | |
| b2 | 1 | -2- | R | 8% | 75% | 2-1 | TOR | K. Gruber | M. Moore | Double to LF; Whitt Scores | |
| b2 | 1 | -2- | O | -2% | 73% | 3-1 | TOR | M. Lee | M. Moore | Groundout: P-1B | |
| b2 | 2 | -2- | R | 7% | 80% | 3-1 | TOR | T. Fernandez | M. Moore | Double to RF; Gruber Scores | |
| b2 | 2 | -2- | O | -2% | 78% | 4-1 | TOR | L. Moseby | M. Moore | Strikeout | |
| 4 runs, 5 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Mariners 1, Blue Jays 4. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 3rd, Mariners Batting, Behind 1-4, Blue Jays' Jim Clancy facing 1-2-3 | |||||||||||
| t3 | 0 | --- | O | 2% | 81% | 1-4 | SEA | J. Moses | J. Clancy | Flyball: LF | |
| t3 | 1 | --- | O | 1% | 82% | 1-4 | SEA | P. Bradley | J. Clancy | Groundout: 2B-1B | |
| t3 | 2 | --- | O | 1% | 83% | 1-4 | SEA | S. Bradley | J. Clancy | Foul Flyball: 3B | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Mariners 1, Blue Jays 4. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 3rd, Blue Jays Batting, Ahead 4-1, Mariners' Mike Moore facing 3-4-5 | |||||||||||
| b3 | 0 | --- | 2% | 85% | 4-1 | TOR | W. Upshaw | M. Moore | Single to CF | ||
| b3 | 0 | 1-- | OO | -4% | 81% | 4-1 | TOR | G. Bell | M. Moore | Ground Ball Double Play: 3B-2B-1B | |
| b3 | 2 | --- | O | -1% | 80% | 4-1 | TOR | J. Barfield | M. Moore | Flyball: CF | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Mariners 1, Blue Jays 4. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 4th, Mariners Batting, Behind 1-4, Blue Jays' Jim Clancy facing 4-5-6 | |||||||||||
| t4 | 0 | --- | -4% | 76% | 1-4 | SEA | K. Phelps | J. Clancy | Single to CF | ||
| t4 | 0 | 1-- | O | 2% | 79% | 1-4 | SEA | A. Davis | J. Clancy | Groundout: 1B unassisted; Phelps to 2B | |
| t4 | 1 | -2- | O | 3% | 82% | 1-4 | SEA | J. Presley | J. Clancy | Groundout: SS-1B | |
| t4 | 2 | -2- | O | 3% | 85% | 1-4 | SEA | M. Kingery | J. Clancy | Flyball: CF | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Mariners 1, Blue Jays 4. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 4th, Blue Jays Batting, Ahead 4-1, Mariners' Mike Moore facing 6-7-8 | |||||||||||
| b4 | 0 | --- | O | -1% | 84% | 4-1 | TOR | R. Mulliniks | M. Moore | Groundout: 1B-P | |
| b4 | 1 | --- | O | -1% | 83% | 4-1 | TOR | E. Whitt | M. Moore | Groundout: 1B-P | |
| b4 | 2 | --- | O | -1% | 82% | 4-1 | TOR | K. Gruber | M. Moore | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Mariners 1, Blue Jays 4. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 5th, Mariners Batting, Behind 1-4, Blue Jays' Jim Clancy facing 8-9-1 | |||||||||||
| t5 | 0 | --- | -4% | 79% | 1-4 | SEA | R. Quinones | J. Clancy | Single to CF | ||
| t5 | 0 | 1-- | -11% | 68% | 1-4 | SEA | H. Reynolds | J. Clancy | Double to RF; Quinones to 3B | ||
| t5 | 0 | -23 | RR | -13% | 55% | 1-4 | SEA | J. Moses | J. Clancy | Double to RF; Quinones Scores; Reynolds Scores | |
| t5 | 0 | -2- | O | 2% | 57% | 3-4 | SEA | P. Bradley | J. Clancy | Groundout: 2B-1B; Moses to 3B | |
| Jeff Musselman replaces Jim Clancy pitching | |||||||||||
| t5 | 1 | --3 | -3% | 54% | 3-4 | SEA | S. Bradley | J. Musselman | Walk | ||
| t5 | 1 | 1-3 | OO | 16% | 70% | 3-4 | SEA | K. Phelps | J. Musselman | Ground Ball Double Play: SS-2B-1B | |
| 2 runs, 3 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Mariners 3, Blue Jays 4. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 5th, Blue Jays Batting, Ahead 4-3, Mariners' Mike Moore facing 9-1-2 | |||||||||||
| b5 | 0 | --- | O | -2% | 68% | 4-3 | TOR | M. Lee | M. Moore | Groundout: 3B-1B | |
| b5 | 1 | --- | O | -2% | 66% | 4-3 | TOR | T. Fernandez | M. Moore | Groundout: 3B-1B | |
| b5 | 2 | --- | O | -1% | 65% | 4-3 | TOR | L. Moseby | M. Moore | Foul Flyball: 3B | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Mariners 3, Blue Jays 4. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 6th, Mariners Batting, Behind 3-4, Blue Jays' Jeff Musselman facing 5-6-7 | |||||||||||
| t6 | 0 | --- | O | 4% | 69% | 3-4 | SEA | A. Davis | J. Musselman | Flyball: CF | |
| t6 | 1 | --- | -4% | 65% | 3-4 | SEA | J. Presley | J. Musselman | Single to RF | ||
| John Christensen pinch hits for Mike Kingery (RF) batting 7th | |||||||||||
| t6 | 1 | 1-- | OO | 9% | 73% | 3-4 | SEA | J. Christensen | J. Musselman | Ground Ball Double Play: 3B-2B-1B | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Mariners 3, Blue Jays 4. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 6th, Blue Jays Batting, Ahead 4-3, Mariners' Mike Moore facing 3-4-5 | |||||||||||
| John Christensen moves from PH to RF | |||||||||||
| b6 | 0 | --- | O | -2% | 71% | 4-3 | TOR | W. Upshaw | M. Moore | Groundout: SS-1B | |
| b6 | 1 | --- | O | -2% | 69% | 4-3 | TOR | G. Bell | M. Moore | Strikeout | |
| b6 | 2 | --- | 1% | 71% | 4-3 | TOR | J. Barfield | M. Moore | Single to CF | ||
| b6 | 2 | 1-- | 2% | 73% | 4-3 | TOR | R. Mulliniks | M. Moore | Single to CF; Barfield to 2B | ||
| Stan Clarke replaces Mike Moore pitching | |||||||||||
| b6 | 2 | 12- | O | -4% | 68% | 4-3 | TOR | E. Whitt | S. Clarke | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 2 LOB. Mariners 3, Blue Jays 4. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 7th, Mariners Batting, Behind 3-4, Blue Jays' Jeff Musselman facing 8-9-1 | |||||||||||
| t7 | 0 | --- | -7% | 61% | 3-4 | SEA | R. Quinones | J. Musselman | Walk | ||
| t7 | 0 | 1-- | O | 4% | 65% | 3-4 | SEA | H. Reynolds | J. Musselman | Bunt Groundout: 1B-2B/Sacrifice; Quinones to 2B | |
| t7 | 1 | -2- | O | 7% | 72% | 3-4 | SEA | J. Moses | J. Musselman | Flyball: CF | |
| Tom Henke replaces Jeff Musselman pitching | |||||||||||
| t7 | 2 | -2- | -2% | 70% | 3-4 | SEA | P. Bradley | T. Henke | Walk | ||
| t7 | 2 | 12- | O | 8% | 78% | 3-4 | SEA | S. Bradley | T. Henke | Flyball: LF | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 2 LOB. Mariners 3, Blue Jays 4. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 7th, Blue Jays Batting, Ahead 4-3, Mariners' Mike Trujillo facing 8-9-1 | |||||||||||
| Mike Trujillo replaces Stan Clarke pitching | |||||||||||
| b7 | 0 | --- | O | -2% | 76% | 4-3 | TOR | K. Gruber | M. Trujillo | Foul Flyball: C | |
| b7 | 1 | --- | O | -1% | 75% | 4-3 | TOR | M. Lee | M. Trujillo | Flyball: CF | |
| b7 | 2 | --- | O | -1% | 73% | 4-3 | TOR | T. Fernandez | M. Trujillo | Flyball: CF | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Mariners 3, Blue Jays 4. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 8th, Mariners Batting, Behind 3-4, Blue Jays' Tom Henke facing 4-5-6 | |||||||||||
| t8 | 0 | --- | O | 6% | 79% | 3-4 | SEA | K. Phelps | T. Henke | Strikeout | |
| t8 | 1 | --- | O | 4% | 83% | 3-4 | SEA | A. Davis | T. Henke | Groundout: 2B-1B | |
| t8 | 2 | --- | O | 3% | 86% | 3-4 | SEA | J. Presley | T. Henke | Strikeout Looking | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Mariners 3, Blue Jays 4. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 8th, Blue Jays Batting, Ahead 4-3, Mariners' Mike Trujillo facing 2-3-4 | |||||||||||
| b8 | 0 | --- | 2% | 88% | 4-3 | TOR | L. Moseby | M. Trujillo | Single to RF | ||
| b8 | 0 | 1-- | O | -4% | 85% | 4-3 | TOR | W. Upshaw | M. Trujillo | Moseby Caught Stealing 2B (C-SS) | |
| b8 | 1 | --- | O | -1% | 83% | 4-3 | TOR | W. Upshaw | M. Trujillo | Flyball: CF | |
| b8 | 2 | --- | O | -1% | 82% | 4-3 | TOR | G. Bell | M. Trujillo | Flyball: LF | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Mariners 3, Blue Jays 4. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 9th, Mariners Batting, Behind 3-4, Blue Jays' Tom Henke facing 7-8-9 | |||||||||||
| t9 | 0 | --- | O | 8% | 90% | 3-4 | SEA | J. Christensen | T. Henke | Strikeout | |
| t9 | 1 | --- | O | 6% | 96% | 3-4 | SEA | R. Quinones | T. Henke | Flyball: SS | |
| t9 | 2 | --- | O | 4% | 100% | 3-4 | SEA | H. Reynolds | T. Henke | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Mariners 3, Blue Jays 4. | |||||||||||
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