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You Are Here > Baseball-Reference.com > Box Scores > 1985 > Aug 4, 1985, Phillies at Cardinals Play by Play and Box Score
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Busch Stadium, Attendance: 46,674 |
Sunday, August 4, 1985 Time of Game: 2:25 |
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Phillies
6
48-55
Won 2
5th, 13½ GB
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
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Phillies 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 0 6 7 0
Cardinals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0
W: Kevin Gross (11-8), L: Joaquin Andujar (17-6) |
Cardinals
0
61-41
Lost 2
1st
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Batting Stats
Philadelphia Phillies AB R H RBI BB SO BA OPS Pit Str PO A Details J Samuel 2B 5 1 2 1 0 1 .260 .713 4 2 2B,SB G Gross LF 4 1 1 0 1 0 .241 .653 3 0 V Hayes CF 5 1 1 1 0 0 .280 .806 3 0 2B M Schmidt 1B 3 1 0 0 1 1 .249 .797 5 3 CS,HBP,IW G Wilson RF 3 1 2 1 1 0 .262 .719 1 0 O Virgil C 4 0 1 2 0 1 .285 .818 7 1 2B R Schu 3B 3 0 0 0 1 0 .274 .724 1 1 GDP,IW L Aguayo SS 2 1 0 1 1 1 .240 .728 0 0 SF K Gross P 2 0 0 0 1 0 .163 .409 3 1 SH Totals 31 6 7 0 6 4 27 8
Batting Events
2B: V Hayes (19, off J Andujar); J Samuel (21, off J Andujar); O Virgil (14, off J Andujar).
SF: L Aguayo (3, off J Boever).
SH: K Gross (4, off J Andujar).
IBB: M Schmidt (5, by J Andujar); R Schu (2, by J Boever).
HBP: M Schmidt (1, by J Andujar).
TB: J Samuel 3; V Hayes 2; G Wilson 2; O Virgil 2; G Gross.
GIDP: R Schu (5).
RBI: O Virgil 2 (37); V Hayes (53); G Wilson (68); L Aguayo (9); J Samuel (46).
Team LOB: 7.
With RISP: 4 for 10.
Baserunning Events
SB: J Samuel (35, 2nd base off J Boever/D Porter).
CS: M Schmidt (2, 3rd base by J Andujar/D Porter).
St. Louis Cardinals AB R H RBI BB SO BA OPS Pit Str PO A Details V Coleman LF 3 0 0 0 1 1 .269 .680 4 0 W McGee CF 4 0 2 0 0 0 .347 .880 3 0 T Herr 2B 4 0 0 0 0 0 .315 .791 3 3 J Clark 1B 4 0 0 0 0 2 .292 .932 8 1 D Porter C 3 0 0 0 1 0 .173 .654 4 1 SB A Van Slyke RF 4 0 0 0 0 0 .248 .748 1 0 T Pendleton 3B 3 0 2 0 0 0 .227 .553 2 2 2B,CS O Smith SS 3 0 0 0 0 1 .261 .668 2 2 J Andujar P 2 0 0 0 1 2 .132 .354 0 0 J Boever P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Totals 30 0 4 0 3 6 27 9
Batting Events
2B: T Pendleton (11, off K Gross).
TB: T Pendleton 3; W McGee 2.
Team LOB: 6.
With RISP: 1 for 7.
Fielding Events
DP: 2. T Herr-J Clark; D Porter-T Pendleton.
Baserunning Events
SB: D Porter (1, 2nd base off K Gross/O Virgil).
CS: T Pendleton (7, 2nd base by K Gross/O Virgil).
Pitching Stats
Philadelphia Phillies IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BF Pit-Str Ct·Sw·Lk GB·FB·LD· ? GmSc IR-IS LevI WPA K Gross, W (11-8) 9 4 0 0 3 6 0 2.80 33 - · · 8·12· 1· 4 82 - 1.09 0.43 Totals 9 4 0 0 3 6 0 33 - · · 8·12· 1· 4 -
St. Louis Cardinals IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BF Pit-Str Ct·Sw·Lk GB·FB·LD· ? GmSc IR-IS LevI WPA J Andujar, L (17-6) 7.1 6 6 6 5 3 0 2.63 33 - · · 11· 7· 0· 6 40 - 1.29 -0.07 J Boever 1.2 1 0 0 1 1 0 0.00 7 - · · 1· 3· 0· 1 2-1 0.06 -0.00 Totals 9 7 6 6 6 4 0 40 - · · 12·10· 0· 7 2-1
Balks: None.
WP: None.
HBP: J Andujar (8; M Schmidt).
IBB: J Boever (1; R Schu); J Andujar (7; M Schmidt).
Pickoffs: None.
Other Info
Umpires:
HP - Dutch Rennert, 1B - Fred Brocklander, 2B - Ed Montague, 3B - Lee Weyer.
Time of Game: 2:25.
Attendance: 46,674.
Field Condition: Unknown.
Start Time Weather: Unknown.
Lineups
Philadelphia Phillies St. Louis Cardinals 1. Juan Samuel 2B 1. Vince Coleman LF 2. Greg Gross LF 2. Willie McGee CF 3. Von Hayes CF 3. Tom Herr 2B 4. Mike Schmidt 1B 4. Jack Clark 1B 5. Glenn Wilson RF 5. Darrell Porter C 6. Ozzie Virgil C 6. Andy Van Slyke RF 7. Rick Schu 3B 7. Terry Pendleton 3B 8. Luis Aguayo SS 8. Ozzie Smith SS 9. Kevin Gross P 9. Joaquin Andujar P
Top 5 Plays
Glossary · Click headers to sort · CSV · PRE · View Pitches · wWE and wWPA Explanation| Inn | Out | RoB | R/O | Pit(cnt) | wWPA | wWE | Score | @Bat | Batter | Pitcher | Play Description |
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| t8 | 1 | -2- | R | 24% | 78% | 0-0 | PHI | J. Samuel | J. Andujar | Double; Aguayo Scores | |
| t2 | 0 | 12- | OO | -11% | 49% | 0-0 | PHI | O. Virgil | J. Andujar | Double Play: Strikeout, Schmidt Caught Stealing 3B (C-3B); Wilson to 2B/Adv on throw to 3B | |
| t8 | 1 | 1-3 | R | 9% | 92% | 1-0 | PHI | V. Hayes | J. Andujar | Double; Samuel Scores; Gross to 3B | |
| t7 | 1 | 1-- | OO | -9% | 42% | 0-0 | PHI | R. Schu | J. Andujar | Ground Ball Double Play: 2B-1B | |
| b3 | 1 | 123 | O | 8% | 42% | 0-0 | STL | J. Clark | K. Gross | Strikeout |
Play By Play
Glossary · Click headers to sort · CSV · PRE · View Pitches · Box Score Explanation · wWE and wWPA Explanation| Inn | Out | RoB | R/O | Pit(cnt) | wWPA | wWE | Score | @Bat | Batter | Pitcher | Play Description |
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| Top of the 1st, Phillies Batting, Tied 0-0, Cardinals' Joaquin Andujar facing 1-2-3 | |||||||||||
| t1 | 0 | --- | O | -2% | 48% | 0-0 | PHI | J. Samuel | J. Andujar | Groundout: 2B-1B | |
| t1 | 1 | --- | O | -1% | 46% | 0-0 | PHI | G. Gross | J. Andujar | Flyball: LF | |
| t1 | 2 | --- | O | -1% | 45% | 0-0 | PHI | V. Hayes | J. Andujar | Groundout: 1B unassisted | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 0, Cardinals 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 1st, Cardinals Batting, Tied 0-0, Phillies' Kevin Gross facing 1-2-3 | |||||||||||
| b1 | 0 | --- | O | 2% | 48% | 0-0 | STL | V. Coleman | K. Gross | Strikeout | |
| b1 | 1 | --- | -3% | 45% | 0-0 | STL | W. McGee | K. Gross | Single | ||
| b1 | 1 | 1-- | O | 3% | 48% | 0-0 | STL | T. Herr | K. Gross | Flyball: LF | |
| b1 | 2 | 1-- | O | 2% | 50% | 0-0 | STL | J. Clark | K. Gross | Flyball: CF | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 0, Cardinals 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 2nd, Phillies Batting, Tied 0-0, Cardinals' Joaquin Andujar facing 4-5-6 | |||||||||||
| t2 | 0 | --- | 4% | 54% | 0-0 | PHI | M. Schmidt | J. Andujar | Hit By Pitch | ||
| t2 | 0 | 1-- | 6% | 60% | 0-0 | PHI | G. Wilson | J. Andujar | Walk; Schmidt to 2B | ||
| t2 | 0 | 12- | OO | -11% | 49% | 0-0 | PHI | O. Virgil | J. Andujar | Double Play: Strikeout, Schmidt Caught Stealing 3B (C-3B); Wilson to 2B/Adv on throw to 3B | |
| t2 | 2 | -2- | O | -3% | 45% | 0-0 | PHI | R. Schu | J. Andujar | Flyball: CF | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 0, Cardinals 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 2nd, Cardinals Batting, Tied 0-0, Phillies' Kevin Gross facing 5-6-7 | |||||||||||
| b2 | 0 | --- | -4% | 41% | 0-0 | STL | D. Porter | K. Gross | Walk | ||
| b2 | 0 | 1-- | O | 4% | 45% | 0-0 | STL | A. Van Slyke | K. Gross | Flyball: CF | |
| b2 | 1 | 1-- | O | 3% | 48% | 0-0 | STL | T. Pendleton | K. Gross | Flyball: 3B | |
| b2 | 2 | 1-- | -1% | 47% | 0-0 | STL | O. Smith | K. Gross | Porter Steals 2B | ||
| b2 | 2 | -2- | O | 3% | 50% | 0-0 | STL | O. Smith | K. Gross | Flyball: 2B | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 0, Cardinals 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 3rd, Phillies Batting, Tied 0-0, Cardinals' Joaquin Andujar facing 8-9-1 | |||||||||||
| t3 | 0 | --- | O | -2% | 48% | 0-0 | PHI | L. Aguayo | J. Andujar | Groundout: SS-1B | |
| t3 | 1 | --- | 3% | 50% | 0-0 | PHI | K. Gross | J. Andujar | Walk | ||
| t3 | 1 | 1-- | O | -3% | 47% | 0-0 | PHI | J. Samuel | J. Andujar | Flyball: SS | |
| t3 | 2 | 1-- | 2% | 50% | 0-0 | PHI | G. Gross | J. Andujar | Walk; Gross to 2B | ||
| t3 | 2 | 12- | O | -5% | 45% | 0-0 | PHI | V. Hayes | J. Andujar | Flyball: LF | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 2 LOB. Phillies 0, Cardinals 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 3rd, Cardinals Batting, Tied 0-0, Phillies' Kevin Gross facing 9-1-2 | |||||||||||
| b3 | 0 | --- | -4% | 41% | 0-0 | STL | J. Andujar | K. Gross | Walk | ||
| b3 | 0 | 1-- | -6% | 35% | 0-0 | STL | V. Coleman | K. Gross | Walk; Andujar to 2B | ||
| b3 | 0 | 12- | -8% | 26% | 0-0 | STL | W. McGee | K. Gross | Single; Andujar to 3B; Coleman to 2B | ||
| b3 | 0 | 123 | O | 7% | 34% | 0-0 | STL | T. Herr | K. Gross | Groundout: 1B-C/Forceout at Hm; Coleman to 3B; McGee to 2B | |
| b3 | 1 | 123 | O | 8% | 42% | 0-0 | STL | J. Clark | K. Gross | Strikeout | |
| b3 | 2 | 123 | O | 8% | 50% | 0-0 | STL | D. Porter | K. Gross | Flyball: 2B | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 3 LOB. Phillies 0, Cardinals 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 4th, Phillies Batting, Tied 0-0, Cardinals' Joaquin Andujar facing 4-5-6 | |||||||||||
| t4 | 0 | --- | O | -3% | 47% | 0-0 | PHI | M. Schmidt | J. Andujar | Groundout: 3B-1B | |
| t4 | 1 | --- | 3% | 50% | 0-0 | PHI | G. Wilson | J. Andujar | Single | ||
| t4 | 1 | 1-- | O | -3% | 47% | 0-0 | PHI | O. Virgil | J. Andujar | Foul Flyball: 2B | |
| t4 | 2 | 1-- | O | -3% | 44% | 0-0 | PHI | R. Schu | J. Andujar | Flyball: RF | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 0, Cardinals 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 4th, Cardinals Batting, Tied 0-0, Phillies' Kevin Gross facing 6-7-8 | |||||||||||
| b4 | 0 | --- | O | 3% | 47% | 0-0 | STL | A. Van Slyke | K. Gross | Groundout: 1B-P | |
| b4 | 1 | --- | -3% | 44% | 0-0 | STL | T. Pendleton | K. Gross | Single | ||
| b4 | 1 | 1-- | O | 5% | 49% | 0-0 | STL | O. Smith | K. Gross | Pendleton Caught Stealing 2B (C-2B) | |
| b4 | 2 | --- | O | 1% | 50% | 0-0 | STL | O. Smith | K. Gross | Groundout: 1B-P | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 0, Cardinals 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 5th, Phillies Batting, Tied 0-0, Cardinals' Joaquin Andujar facing 8-9-1 | |||||||||||
| t5 | 0 | --- | O | -3% | 47% | 0-0 | PHI | L. Aguayo | J. Andujar | Strikeout | |
| t5 | 1 | --- | O | -2% | 45% | 0-0 | PHI | K. Gross | J. Andujar | Flyball: CF | |
| t5 | 2 | --- | O | -1% | 44% | 0-0 | PHI | J. Samuel | J. Andujar | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 0, Cardinals 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 5th, Cardinals Batting, Tied 0-0, Phillies' Kevin Gross facing 9-1-2 | |||||||||||
| b5 | 0 | --- | O | 3% | 47% | 0-0 | STL | J. Andujar | K. Gross | Strikeout | |
| b5 | 1 | --- | O | 2% | 49% | 0-0 | STL | V. Coleman | K. Gross | Groundout: P-1B | |
| b5 | 2 | --- | O | 1% | 50% | 0-0 | STL | W. McGee | K. Gross | Flyball: CF | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 0, Cardinals 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 6th, Phillies Batting, Tied 0-0, Cardinals' Joaquin Andujar facing 2-3-4 | |||||||||||
| t6 | 0 | --- | O | -3% | 47% | 0-0 | PHI | G. Gross | J. Andujar | Groundout: 3B-1B | |
| t6 | 1 | --- | O | -2% | 44% | 0-0 | PHI | V. Hayes | J. Andujar | Groundout: 1B unassisted | |
| t6 | 2 | --- | O | -2% | 43% | 0-0 | PHI | M. Schmidt | J. Andujar | Groundout: SS-1B | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 0, Cardinals 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 6th, Cardinals Batting, Tied 0-0, Phillies' Kevin Gross facing 3-4-5 | |||||||||||
| b6 | 0 | --- | O | 3% | 46% | 0-0 | STL | T. Herr | K. Gross | Groundout: 2B-1B | |
| b6 | 1 | --- | O | 2% | 48% | 0-0 | STL | J. Clark | K. Gross | Strikeout | |
| b6 | 2 | --- | O | 2% | 50% | 0-0 | STL | D. Porter | K. Gross | Groundout: 2B-1B | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 0, Cardinals 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 7th, Phillies Batting, Tied 0-0, Cardinals' Joaquin Andujar facing 5-6-7 | |||||||||||
| t7 | 0 | --- | 6% | 56% | 0-0 | PHI | G. Wilson | J. Andujar | Single | ||
| t7 | 0 | 1-- | O | -6% | 50% | 0-0 | PHI | O. Virgil | J. Andujar | Groundout: 2B-SS/Forceout at 2B | |
| t7 | 1 | 1-- | OO | -9% | 42% | 0-0 | PHI | R. Schu | J. Andujar | Ground Ball Double Play: 2B-1B | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 0, Cardinals 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 7th, Cardinals Batting, Tied 0-0, Phillies' Kevin Gross facing 6-7-8 | |||||||||||
| b7 | 0 | --- | O | 4% | 45% | 0-0 | STL | A. Van Slyke | K. Gross | Flyball: 2B | |
| b7 | 1 | --- | -8% | 38% | 0-0 | STL | T. Pendleton | K. Gross | Double | ||
| b7 | 1 | -2- | O | 6% | 44% | 0-0 | STL | O. Smith | K. Gross | Strikeout | |
| b7 | 2 | -2- | O | 6% | 50% | 0-0 | STL | J. Andujar | K. Gross | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 0, Cardinals 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 8th, Phillies Batting, Tied 0-0, Cardinals' Joaquin Andujar facing 8-9-1 | |||||||||||
| t8 | 0 | --- | 7% | 57% | 0-0 | PHI | L. Aguayo | J. Andujar | Walk | ||
| t8 | 0 | 1-- | O | -2% | 55% | 0-0 | PHI | K. Gross | J. Andujar | Bunt Groundout: 1B-2B/Sacrifice; Aguayo to 2B | |
| t8 | 1 | -2- | R | 24% | 78% | 0-0 | PHI | J. Samuel | J. Andujar | Double; Aguayo Scores | |
| t8 | 1 | -2- | 5% | 83% | 1-0 | PHI | G. Gross | J. Andujar | Single; Samuel to 3B | ||
| t8 | 1 | 1-3 | R | 9% | 92% | 1-0 | PHI | V. Hayes | J. Andujar | Double; Samuel Scores; Gross to 3B | |
| t8 | 1 | -23 | 0% | 92% | 2-0 | PHI | M. Schmidt | J. Andujar | Intentional Walk | ||
| t8 | 1 | 123 | R | 4% | 96% | 2-0 | PHI | G. Wilson | J. Andujar | Fielder's Choice ; Gross Scores; Hayes to 3B; Schmidt to 2B; Wilson to 1B | |
| t8 | 1 | 123 | RR | 3% | 99% | 3-0 | PHI | O. Virgil | J. Andujar | Double; Hayes Scores; Schmidt Scores; Wilson to 3B | |
| Joe Boever replaces Joaquin Andujar pitching and batting 9th | |||||||||||
| t8 | 1 | -23 | 0% | 99% | 5-0 | PHI | R. Schu | J. Boever | Intentional Walk | ||
| t8 | 1 | 123 | RO | 0% | 99% | 5-0 | PHI | L. Aguayo | J. Boever | Flyball: LF/Sacrifice Fly; Wilson Scores | |
| t8 | 2 | 12- | O | -0% | 99% | 6-0 | PHI | K. Gross | J. Boever | Groundout: 3B unassisted/Forceout at 3B | |
| 6 runs, 4 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 6, Cardinals 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 8th, Cardinals Batting, Behind 0-6, Phillies' Kevin Gross facing 1-2-3 | |||||||||||
| b8 | 0 | --- | O | 0% | 100% | 0-6 | STL | V. Coleman | K. Gross | Groundout: 3B-1B | |
| b8 | 1 | --- | O | 0% | 100% | 0-6 | STL | W. McGee | K. Gross | Lineout: P | |
| b8 | 2 | --- | O | 0% | 100% | 0-6 | STL | T. Herr | K. Gross | Flyball: LF | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 6, Cardinals 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 9th, Phillies Batting, Ahead 6-0, Cardinals' Joe Boever facing 1-2-3 | |||||||||||
| t9 | 0 | --- | 0% | 100% | 6-0 | PHI | J. Samuel | J. Boever | Single | ||
| t9 | 0 | 1-- | O | 0% | 100% | 6-0 | PHI | G. Gross | J. Boever | Flyball: LF | |
| t9 | 1 | 1-- | O | 0% | 100% | 6-0 | PHI | V. Hayes | J. Boever | Flyball: CF | |
| t9 | 2 | 1-- | 0% | 100% | 6-0 | PHI | M. Schmidt | J. Boever | Samuel Steals 2B | ||
| t9 | 2 | -2- | O | 0% | 100% | 6-0 | PHI | M. Schmidt | J. Boever | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 6, Cardinals 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 9th, Cardinals Batting, Behind 0-6, Phillies' Kevin Gross facing 4-5-6 | |||||||||||
| b9 | 0 | --- | O | 0% | 100% | 0-6 | STL | J. Clark | K. Gross | Flyball: RF | |
| b9 | 1 | --- | O | 0% | 100% | 0-6 | STL | D. Porter | K. Gross | Groundout: 1B unassisted | |
| b9 | 2 | --- | O | 0% | 100% | 0-6 | STL | A. Van Slyke | K. Gross | Flyball: LF | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 6, Cardinals 0. | |||||||||||
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