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Three Rivers Stadium, Attendance: 30,224 |
Sunday, October 1, 1978 Time of Game: 2:16 |
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Phillies
3
90-72
Lost 1
1st
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
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Phillies 0 0 0 2 0 0 1 0 0 3 9 0
Pirates 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 1 X 5 7 0
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Pirates
5
88-73
Won 1
2nd, 1½ GB
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Philadelphia Phillies AB R H RBI BB SO BA OPS Pit Str PO A Details K Dineen LF 5 0 2 0 0 0 .250 .708 1 0 2B B Harrelson 2B 5 0 0 0 0 3 .214 .554 2 1 P Mackanin 1B 4 0 1 1 0 2 .250 .500 7 0 O Gonzalez RF 4 0 1 0 0 0 .192 .415 2 0 J Morrison 3B 3 1 1 0 1 0 .157 .504 2 0 2B,SB L Smith CF 2 1 0 0 2 1 .000 .500 2 0 SB D Larson P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 B Foote C 2 0 0 0 0 0 .158 .383 3 1 K Moreland C 2 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 4 0 T Cruz SS 4 0 2 2 0 0 .500 1.000 1 5 CS J Kaat P 1 0 1 0 0 0 .146 .330 0 1 H Pina P 1 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 0 0 K Saucier P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 T McCarver PH 1 1 1 0 0 0 .247 .709 0 0 D Boitano P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 J Martin CF 1 0 0 0 0 0 .271 .790 0 0 Totals 35 3 9 0 3 7 24 8
Pittsburgh Pirates AB R H RBI BB SO BA OPS Pit Str PO A Details W Stargell 1B 1 0 1 0 0 0 .295 .949 0 0 D Boyland PR-1B 3 1 1 1 0 0 .250 .500 8 0 O Moreno CF 3 0 1 1 0 1 .235 .642 1 0 SB B Blyleven PR 0 1 0 0 0 0 .129 .292 0 0 C Carroll P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 D May PH 0 0 0 0 1 0 .185 .599 0 0 SB K Tekulve P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .095 .232 0 0 D Parker RF 1 0 0 0 1 1 .334 .979 0 0 S Brye RF 2 0 1 1 0 0 .235 .626 0 0 SB D Berra SS-3B 4 1 1 1 0 0 .207 .640 2 3 HR S Nicosia C 4 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .167 8 1 K Macha 3B 2 0 0 0 2 1 .212 .623 1 0 M Alexander PR 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2·SB P Garner 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 .261 .745 1 2 A Lois LF-CF 4 0 1 0 0 1 .250 1.000 4 0 3B M Mendoza 2B-SS 4 1 1 0 0 2 .218 .574 2 4 O Jones P 1 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 0 0 B Robinson PH 0 1 0 0 0 0 .246 .707 0 0 HBP C Gaston LF 1 0 0 0 0 0 .233 .515 0 0 Totals 30 5 7 0 4 7 27 11
Philadelphia Phillies IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BF Pit-Str Ct·Sw·Lk GB·FB·LD· ? GmSc IR-IS LevI WPA J Kaat 2 2 0 0 1 0 0 4.10 8 - · · 3· 2· 0· 2 51 - 0.89 0.10 H Pina 2 0 0 0 0 3 0 0.00 6 - · · 2· 1· 0· 0 0-0 0.78 0.11 K Saucier, BS (1), L (0-1) 2 4 4 4 1 2 0 18.00 12 - · · 1· 3· 0· 4 0-0 1.16 -0.49 D Boitano 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0.00 4 - · · 1· 2· 0· 0 0-0 0.76 0.04 D Larson 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 9.00 5 - · · 0· 1· 1· 1 0-0 0.39 -0.06 Totals 8 7 5 5 4 7 1 35 - · · 7· 9· 1· 7 -
Pittsburgh Pirates IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BF Pit-Str Ct·Sw·Lk GB·FB·LD· ? GmSc IR-IS LevI WPA O Jones, W (2-0) 5 6 2 2 1 7 0 2.00 21 - · · 1· 6· 1· 6 53 - 1.18 -0.02 C Carroll, H (1) 2 2 1 1 2 0 0 2.25 10 - · · 5· 1· 0· 2 0-0 1.78 0.03 K Tekulve, S (31) 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 2.33 7 - · · 5· 1· 0· 1 0-0 1.32 0.18 Totals 9 9 3 3 3 7 0 38 - · · 11· 8· 1· 9 -
Philadelphia Phillies Pittsburgh Pirates 1. Kerry Dineen LF 1. Willie Stargell 1B 2. Bud Harrelson 2B 2. Omar Moreno CF 3. Pete Mackanin 1B 3. Dave Parker RF 4. Orlando Gonzalez RF 4. Dale Berra SS 5. Jim Morrison 3B 5. Steve Nicosia C 6. Lonnie Smith CF 6. Ken Macha 3B 7. Barry Foote C 7. Alberto Lois LF 8. Todd Cruz SS 8. Mario Mendoza 2B 9. Jim Kaat P 9. Odell Jones P
| Inn | Out | RoB | R/O | Pit(cnt) | wWPA | wWE | Score | @Bat | Batter | Pitcher | Play Description |
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| t4 | 2 | -23 | RR | -22% | 27% | 0-0 | PHI | T. Cruz | O. Jones | Single to CF; Morrison Scores; Smith Scores; Cruz to 2B/Adv on throw to Hm | |
| b5 | 2 | 1-3 | R | 16% | 57% | 1-2 | PIT | O. Moreno | K. Saucier | Single to CF; Robinson Scores; Boyland to 3B | |
| b5 | 2 | 12- | R | 14% | 41% | 0-2 | PIT | D. Boyland | K. Saucier | Single to RF; Mendoza Scores; Robinson to 3B | |
| b5 | 2 | 1-3 | R | 14% | 70% | 2-2 | PIT | S. Brye | K. Saucier | Balk; Boyland Scores; Moreno to 2B | |
| b5 | 2 | --3 | R | 10% | 81% | 3-2 | PIT | S. Brye | K. Saucier | Single to LF; Blyleven Scores |
| Inn | Out | RoB | R/O | Pit(cnt) | wWPA | wWE | Score | @Bat | Batter | Pitcher | Play Description |
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| Top of the 1st, Phillies Batting, Tied 0-0, Pirates' Odell Jones facing 1-2-3 | |||||||||||
| t1 | 0 | --- | O | 2% | 52% | 0-0 | PHI | K. Dineen | O. Jones | Foul Flyball: 3B | |
| t1 | 1 | --- | O | 2% | 54% | 0-0 | PHI | B. Harrelson | O. Jones | Strikeout Looking | |
| t1 | 2 | --- | O | 1% | 55% | 0-0 | PHI | P. Mackanin | O. Jones | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 0, Pirates 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 1st, Pirates Batting, Tied 0-0, Phillies' Jim Kaat facing 1-2-3 | |||||||||||
| b1 | 0 | --- | 4% | 58% | 0-0 | PIT | W. Stargell | J. Kaat | Single to CF | ||
| Doe Boyland pinch runs for Willie Stargell (1B) batting 1st | |||||||||||
| b1 | 0 | 1-- | O | -2% | 57% | 0-0 | PIT | O. Moreno | J. Kaat | Groundout: P-1B; Boyland to 2B | |
| b1 | 1 | -2- | O | -6% | 51% | 0-0 | PIT | D. Parker | J. Kaat | Boyland Picked off 2B (C-3B) | |
| b1 | 2 | --- | 1% | 52% | 0-0 | PIT | D. Parker | J. Kaat | Walk | ||
| b1 | 2 | 1-- | O | -2% | 50% | 0-0 | PIT | D. Berra | J. Kaat | Flyball: RF | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 0, Pirates 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 2nd, Phillies Batting, Tied 0-0, Pirates' Odell Jones facing 4-5-6 | |||||||||||
| Doe Boyland moves from PR to 1B | |||||||||||
| t2 | 0 | --- | -4% | 46% | 0-0 | PHI | O. Gonzalez | O. Jones | Single to CF | ||
| t2 | 0 | 1-- | O | 4% | 50% | 0-0 | PHI | J. Morrison | O. Jones | Lineout: CF | |
| t2 | 1 | 1-- | O | 3% | 53% | 0-0 | PHI | L. Smith | O. Jones | Strikeout Looking | |
| t2 | 2 | 1-- | O | 2% | 55% | 0-0 | PHI | B. Foote | O. Jones | Flyball: LF | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 0, Pirates 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 2nd, Pirates Batting, Tied 0-0, Phillies' Jim Kaat facing 5-6-7 | |||||||||||
| b2 | 0 | --- | O | -2% | 53% | 0-0 | PIT | S. Nicosia | J. Kaat | Groundout: SS-1B | |
| b2 | 1 | --- | O | -2% | 51% | 0-0 | PIT | K. Macha | J. Kaat | Groundout: SS-1B | |
| b2 | 2 | --- | 3% | 54% | 0-0 | PIT | A. Lois | J. Kaat | Triple to CF | ||
| b2 | 2 | --3 | O | -4% | 50% | 0-0 | PIT | M. Mendoza | J. Kaat | Flyball: 2B | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 0, Pirates 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 3rd, Phillies Batting, Tied 0-0, Pirates' Odell Jones facing 8-9-1 | |||||||||||
| t3 | 0 | --- | -4% | 46% | 0-0 | PHI | T. Cruz | O. Jones | Single to CF | ||
| t3 | 0 | 1-- | O | 6% | 52% | 0-0 | PHI | J. Kaat | O. Jones | Cruz Caught Stealing 2B (C-SS) | |
| t3 | 1 | --- | -3% | 50% | 0-0 | PHI | J. Kaat | O. Jones | Single to CF | ||
| t3 | 1 | 1-- | -10% | 40% | 0-0 | PHI | K. Dineen | O. Jones | Double to CF; Kaat to 3B | ||
| t3 | 1 | -23 | O | 9% | 49% | 0-0 | PHI | B. Harrelson | O. Jones | Strikeout | |
| t3 | 2 | -23 | O | 6% | 55% | 0-0 | PHI | P. Mackanin | O. Jones | Popfly: 2B | |
| 0 runs, 3 hits, 0 errors, 2 LOB. Phillies 0, Pirates 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 3rd, Pirates Batting, Tied 0-0, Phillies' Horacio Pina facing 9-1-2 | |||||||||||
| Horacio Pina replaces Jim Kaat pitching and batting 9th | |||||||||||
| b3 | 0 | --- | O | -2% | 53% | 0-0 | PIT | O. Jones | H. Pina | Strikeout | |
| b3 | 1 | --- | O | -2% | 51% | 0-0 | PIT | D. Boyland | H. Pina | Flyball: RF | |
| b3 | 2 | --- | O | -1% | 50% | 0-0 | PIT | O. Moreno | H. Pina | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 0, Pirates 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 4th, Phillies Batting, Tied 0-0, Pirates' Odell Jones facing 4-5-6 | |||||||||||
| t4 | 0 | --- | O | 3% | 53% | 0-0 | PHI | O. Gonzalez | O. Jones | Groundout: 1B unassisted | |
| t4 | 1 | --- | -5% | 48% | 0-0 | PHI | J. Morrison | O. Jones | Double to LF | ||
| t4 | 1 | -2- | -2% | 45% | 0-0 | PHI | L. Smith | O. Jones | Walk | ||
| t4 | 1 | 12- | -6% | 39% | 0-0 | PHI | B. Foote | O. Jones | Morrison Steals 3B; Smith Steals 2B | ||
| t4 | 1 | -23 | O | 10% | 49% | 0-0 | PHI | B. Foote | O. Jones | Foul Flyball: C | |
| t4 | 2 | -23 | RR | -22% | 27% | 0-0 | PHI | T. Cruz | O. Jones | Single to CF; Morrison Scores; Smith Scores; Cruz to 2B/Adv on throw to Hm | |
| t4 | 2 | -2- | O | 3% | 29% | 2-0 | PHI | H. Pina | O. Jones | Strikeout | |
| 2 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 2, Pirates 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 4th, Pirates Batting, Behind 0-2, Phillies' Horacio Pina facing 3-4-5 | |||||||||||
| b4 | 0 | --- | O | -3% | 27% | 0-2 | PIT | D. Parker | H. Pina | Strikeout | |
| b4 | 1 | --- | O | -2% | 25% | 0-2 | PIT | D. Berra | H. Pina | Groundout: 2B-1B | |
| b4 | 2 | --- | O | -1% | 24% | 0-2 | PIT | S. Nicosia | H. Pina | Groundout: SS-1B | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 2, Pirates 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 5th, Phillies Batting, Ahead 2-0, Pirates' Odell Jones facing 1-2-3 | |||||||||||
| Steve Brye replaces Dave Parker playing RF batting 3rd | |||||||||||
| t5 | 0 | --- | O | 2% | 25% | 2-0 | PHI | K. Dineen | O. Jones | Flyball: LF | |
| t5 | 1 | --- | O | 1% | 26% | 2-0 | PHI | B. Harrelson | O. Jones | Strikeout | |
| t5 | 2 | --- | O | 1% | 27% | 2-0 | PHI | P. Mackanin | O. Jones | Strikeout Looking | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 2, Pirates 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 5th, Pirates Batting, Behind 0-2, Phillies' Kevin Saucier facing 6-7-8 | |||||||||||
| Kevin Saucier replaces Horacio Pina pitching and batting 9th; Keith Moreland replaces Barry Foote playing C batting 7th | |||||||||||
| b5 | 0 | --- | O | -3% | 24% | 0-2 | PIT | K. Macha | K. Saucier | Strikeout | |
| b5 | 1 | --- | O | -2% | 22% | 0-2 | PIT | A. Lois | K. Saucier | Groundout: SS-1B | |
| b5 | 2 | --- | 2% | 24% | 0-2 | PIT | M. Mendoza | K. Saucier | Single to RF | ||
| Bill Robinson pinch hits for Odell Jones (P) batting 9th | |||||||||||
| b5 | 2 | 1-- | 3% | 27% | 0-2 | PIT | B. Robinson | K. Saucier | Hit By Pitch; Mendoza to 2B | ||
| b5 | 2 | 12- | R | 14% | 41% | 0-2 | PIT | D. Boyland | K. Saucier | Single to RF; Mendoza Scores; Robinson to 3B | |
| b5 | 2 | 1-3 | R | 16% | 57% | 1-2 | PIT | O. Moreno | K. Saucier | Single to CF; Robinson Scores; Boyland to 3B | |
| b5 | 2 | 1-3 | R | 14% | 70% | 2-2 | PIT | S. Brye | K. Saucier | Balk; Boyland Scores; Moreno to 2B | |
| b5 | 2 | -2- | 0% | 71% | 3-2 | PIT | S. Brye | K. Saucier | Moreno Steals 3B | ||
| Bert Blyleven pinch runs for Omar Moreno (CF) batting 2nd | |||||||||||
| b5 | 2 | --3 | R | 10% | 81% | 3-2 | PIT | S. Brye | K. Saucier | Single to LF; Blyleven Scores | |
| b5 | 2 | 1-- | 1% | 81% | 4-2 | PIT | D. Berra | K. Saucier | Brye Steals 2B | ||
| b5 | 2 | -2- | O | -2% | 79% | 4-2 | PIT | D. Berra | K. Saucier | Flyball: CF | |
| 4 runs, 4 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 2, Pirates 4. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 6th, Phillies Batting, Behind 2-4, Pirates' Clay Carroll facing 4-5-6 | |||||||||||
| Clay Carroll replaces Bert Blyleven (PR) pitching and batting 2nd; Cito Gaston replaces Bill Robinson (PH) playing LF batting 9th; Alberto Lois moves from LF to CF | |||||||||||
| t6 | 0 | --- | O | 3% | 82% | 2-4 | PHI | O. Gonzalez | C. Carroll | Flyball: CF | |
| t6 | 1 | --- | -4% | 79% | 2-4 | PHI | J. Morrison | C. Carroll | Walk | ||
| t6 | 1 | 1-- | -6% | 73% | 2-4 | PHI | L. Smith | C. Carroll | Walk; Morrison to 2B | ||
| t6 | 1 | 12- | O | 6% | 79% | 2-4 | PHI | K. Moreland | C. Carroll | Groundout: SS-2B/Forceout at 2B; Morrison to 3B | |
| t6 | 2 | 1-3 | O | 6% | 86% | 2-4 | PHI | T. Cruz | C. Carroll | Groundout: SS unassisted/Forceout at 2B | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 2 LOB. Phillies 2, Pirates 4. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 6th, Pirates Batting, Ahead 4-2, Phillies' Kevin Saucier facing 5-6-7 | |||||||||||
| b6 | 0 | --- | O | -1% | 84% | 4-2 | PIT | S. Nicosia | K. Saucier | Popfly: 2B | |
| b6 | 1 | --- | 1% | 86% | 4-2 | PIT | K. Macha | K. Saucier | Walk | ||
| b6 | 1 | 1-- | O | -1% | 84% | 4-2 | PIT | A. Lois | K. Saucier | Flyball: CF | |
| b6 | 2 | 1-- | O | -1% | 83% | 4-2 | PIT | M. Mendoza | K. Saucier | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 2, Pirates 4. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 7th, Phillies Batting, Behind 2-4, Pirates' Clay Carroll facing 9-1-2 | |||||||||||
| Tim McCarver pinch hits for Kevin Saucier (P) batting 9th | |||||||||||
| t7 | 0 | --- | -6% | 77% | 2-4 | PHI | T. McCarver | C. Carroll | Single to 2B | ||
| t7 | 0 | 1-- | O | 3% | 80% | 2-4 | PHI | K. Dineen | C. Carroll | Groundout: 2B-1B; McCarver to 2B | |
| t7 | 1 | -2- | O | 5% | 85% | 2-4 | PHI | B. Harrelson | C. Carroll | Groundout: 2B-1B; McCarver to 3B | |
| t7 | 2 | --3 | R | -10% | 75% | 2-4 | PHI | P. Mackanin | C. Carroll | Single to CF; McCarver Scores | |
| t7 | 2 | 1-- | O | 4% | 80% | 3-4 | PHI | O. Gonzalez | C. Carroll | Groundout: P-SS-1B | |
| 1 run, 2 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 3, Pirates 4. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 7th, Pirates Batting, Ahead 4-3, Phillies' Dan Boitano facing 9-1-2 | |||||||||||
| Dan Boitano replaces Tim McCarver (PH) pitching and batting 9th | |||||||||||
| b7 | 0 | --- | O | -2% | 78% | 4-3 | PIT | C. Gaston | D. Boitano | Flyball: LF | |
| b7 | 1 | --- | O | -1% | 77% | 4-3 | PIT | D. Boyland | D. Boitano | Flyball: SS | |
| Dave May pinch hits for Clay Carroll (P) batting 2nd | |||||||||||
| b7 | 2 | --- | 1% | 78% | 4-3 | PIT | D. May | D. Boitano | Walk | ||
| b7 | 2 | 1-- | 1% | 79% | 4-3 | PIT | S. Brye | D. Boitano | May Steals 2B | ||
| b7 | 2 | -2- | O | -3% | 76% | 4-3 | PIT | S. Brye | D. Boitano | Groundout: SS-1B | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 3, Pirates 4. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 8th, Phillies Batting, Behind 3-4, Pirates' Kent Tekulve facing 5-6-7 | |||||||||||
| Kent Tekulve replaces Dave May (PH) pitching and batting 2nd | |||||||||||
| t8 | 0 | --- | O | 5% | 81% | 3-4 | PHI | J. Morrison | K. Tekulve | Flyball: CF | |
| t8 | 1 | --- | O | 4% | 85% | 3-4 | PHI | L. Smith | K. Tekulve | Groundout: 2B-1B | |
| t8 | 2 | --- | O | 3% | 87% | 3-4 | PHI | K. Moreland | K. Tekulve | Groundout: SS-1B | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 3, Pirates 4. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 8th, Pirates Batting, Ahead 4-3, Phillies' Dan Larson facing 4-5-6 | |||||||||||
| Dan Larson replaces Lonnie Smith (CF) pitching and batting 6th; Jerry Martin replaces Dan Boitano (P) playing CF batting 9th | |||||||||||
| b8 | 0 | --- | R | 7% | 94% | 4-3 | PIT | D. Berra | D. Larson | Home Run | |
| b8 | 0 | --- | O | -1% | 94% | 5-3 | PIT | S. Nicosia | D. Larson | Lineout: 3B | |
| b8 | 1 | --- | 1% | 94% | 5-3 | PIT | K. Macha | D. Larson | Walk | ||
| Matt Alexander pinch runs for Ken Macha (3B) batting 6th | |||||||||||
| b8 | 1 | 1-- | 0% | 95% | 5-3 | PIT | A. Lois | D. Larson | Alexander Steals 2B | ||
| b8 | 1 | -2- | 1% | 96% | 5-3 | PIT | A. Lois | D. Larson | Alexander Steals 3B | ||
| b8 | 1 | --3 | O | -2% | 94% | 5-3 | PIT | A. Lois | D. Larson | Strikeout | |
| b8 | 2 | --3 | O | -1% | 93% | 5-3 | PIT | M. Mendoza | D. Larson | Strikeout | |
| 1 run, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 3, Pirates 5. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 9th, Phillies Batting, Behind 3-5, Pirates' Kent Tekulve facing 8-9-1 | |||||||||||
| Phil Garner replaces Matt Alexander (PR) playing 2B batting 6th; Dale Berra moves from SS to 3B; Mario Mendoza moves from 2B to SS | |||||||||||
| t9 | 0 | --- | O | 4% | 97% | 3-5 | PHI | T. Cruz | K. Tekulve | Groundout: 2B-1B | |
| t9 | 1 | --- | O | 2% | 99% | 3-5 | PHI | J. Martin | K. Tekulve | Groundout: 2B-1B | |
| t9 | 2 | --- | -2% | 97% | 3-5 | PHI | K. Dineen | K. Tekulve | Single to RF | ||
| t9 | 2 | 1-- | O | 3% | 100% | 3-5 | PHI | B. Harrelson | K. Tekulve | Groundout: SS-2B/Forceout at 2B | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 3, Pirates 5. | |||||||||||
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