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Scores
Standings
OAK
@BAL
11
2
LAA
@CHW
2
10
CLE
@KCR
9
3
DET
@MIN
2
10
NYY
@SEA
1
3
BOS
@TEX
8
1
TBR
@TOR
4
6
WSN
@ATL
5
10
CHC
@CIN
2
10
HOU
@COL
3
5
ARI
@LAD
0
7
SDP
@MIL
2
3
 
(11)
PHI
@NYM
3
0
PIT
@SFG
7
0
FLA
@STL
4
1
 
(11)
Friday, September 5, 2008, 7:11PM
, Shea Stadium
Attendance: 48,302, Time of Game: 2:35
Phillies
3
77-64
 Won 1 
2nd, 2 GB
at Mets
0
79-62
 Lost 1 
1st
W: Brett Myers (9-10)
L: Mike Pelfrey (13-9)
S: Brad Lidge (34)
                1  2  3   4  5  6   7  8  9    R  H  E
                -  -  -   -  -  -   -  -  -    -  -  -
Phillies        1  0  0   0  0  0   2  0  0    3  4  0
Mets            0  0  0   0  0  0   0  0  0    0  5  1

Philadelphia Phillies

Batting AB R H RBI BB SO PA BA OBP SLG OPS Pit Str WPA aLI WPA+ WPA- RE24 PO A
Jimmy Rollins SS 4 0 1 0 0 1 4 .273 .339 .437 .776 19 11 -0.067 0.84 0.038 -0.104 -0.8 2 2
Shane Victorino CF 4 1 1 0 0 1 4 .281 .345 .428 .773 19 14 0.036 0.61 0.067 -0.032 0.3 4 0 SB
Chase Utley 2B 4 0 0 1 0 0 4 .291 .379 .546 .925 17 10 -0.019 0.71 0.019 -0.039 -0.4 1 2
Ryan Howard 1B 2 1 0 0 2 1 4 .235 .326 .500 .826 19 9 0.050 0.53 0.062 -0.012 0.4 6 1
Pat Burrell LF 3 0 0 0 0 1 3 .255 .371 .516 .887 18 12 -0.085 1.18 0.000 -0.085 -0.9 0 0
   Eric Bruntlett LF 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .217 .300 .296 .595 2 1 -0.002 0.07 0.000 -0.002 -0.1 2 0
Jayson Werth RF 3 0 0 0 0 2 3 .276 .373 .513 .886 16 11 -0.069 0.91 0.000 -0.069 -0.7 1 0
Greg Dobbs 3B 3 1 2 2 0 0 3 .297 .332 .464 .795 14 7 0.202 0.75 0.226 -0.024 1.8 0 0 HR
   Pedro Feliz 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250 .298 .408 .706 0.000 0.00 0.000 0.000 0.0 0 0
Chris Coste C 3 0 0 0 0 0 3 .272 .325 .441 .766 9 7 -0.043 0.54 0.000 -0.043 -0.5 10 0
   Carlos Ruiz C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .221 .318 .290 .609 0.000 0.00 0.000 0.000 0.0 0 0
Brett Myers P 3 0 0 0 0 0 3 .039 .109 .039 .148 7 6 -0.040 0.53 0.000 -0.040 -0.6 1 0
   Brad Lidge P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.000 0.000 0.0 0 0
Team Totals 30 3 4 3 2 6 32 .133 .188 .233 .421 140 88 -0.037 0.71 0.412 -0.450 -1.5 27 5
HR: G Dobbs (7, off M Pelfrey, 7th inn, 1 on, 2 outs to RF).
TB: G Dobbs 5; S Victorino; J Rollins.
RBI: G Dobbs 2 (33); C Utley (91).
2-out RBI: G Dobbs 2.
Team LOB: 2.
With RISP: 0 for 1.
Fielding
DP: 1. C Utley-J Rollins-R Howard.
Baserunning
SB: S Victorino (31, 2nd base off M Pelfrey/B Schneider).
Pickoffs: J Rollins (1st base by M Pelfrey).

New York Mets

Batting AB R H RBI BB SO PA BA OBP SLG OPS Pit Str WPA aLI WPA+ WPA- RE24 PO A
Jose Reyes SS 4 0 0 0 0 1 4 .303 .363 .486 .849 10 9 -0.099 0.97 0.000 -0.099 -0.8 1 1
Daniel Murphy LF 4 0 2 0 0 1 4 .366 .448 .549 .997 25 17 0.073 0.87 0.116 -0.043 0.4 4 0 2·2B
David Wright 3B 3 0 1 0 1 1 4 .291 .381 .516 .897 16 12 -0.020 1.12 0.054 -0.074 0.2 1 1 2B
Carlos Delgado 1B 4 0 1 0 0 0 4 .260 .346 .494 .840 15 10 -0.113 1.64 0.068 -0.181 -0.9 11 0 GDP
Carlos Beltran CF 4 0 1 0 0 1 4 .277 .369 .482 .851 12 8 -0.048 1.41 0.067 -0.115 -0.5 1 0 2B
Ryan Church RF 4 0 0 0 0 2 4 .293 .354 .488 .842 16 12 -0.131 1.08 0.000 -0.131 -1.3 2 0
Luis Castillo 2B 3 0 0 0 0 3 3 .257 .357 .320 .676 23 14 -0.083 1.04 0.000 -0.083 -0.7 1 3
Brian Schneider C 2 0 0 0 1 0 3 .257 .343 .356 .700 14 6 -0.039 1.10 0.012 -0.051 -0.3 6 1 IW
Mike Pelfrey P 2 0 0 0 0 1 2 .094 .143 .094 .237 11 8 -0.064 1.25 0.000 -0.064 -0.5 0 3
   Brian Stokes P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .667 .667 .667 1.333 0.000 0.00 0.000 0.000 0.0 0 0
   Marlon Anderson PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .220 .263 .291 .554 2 2 -0.016 0.65 0.000 -0.016 -0.2
   Ricardo Rincon P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.000 0.000 0.0 0 0
   Duaner Sanchez P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.000 0.000 0.0 0 0
Team Totals 31 0 5 0 2 10 33 .161 .212 .290 .502 144 98 -0.540 1.16 0.317 -0.857 -4.5 27 9
2B: D Murphy 2 (7, 2 off B Myers); C Beltran (34, off B Myers); D Wright (38, off B Lidge).
IBB: B Schneider (7, by B Myers).
TB: D Murphy 4; D Wright 2; C Beltran 2; C Delgado.
GIDP: C Delgado (14).
Team LOB: 6.
With RISP: 1 for 9.
Fielding
E: B Schneider (4).

Philadelphia Phillies

Pitching IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BF Pit Str Ctct StS StL GB FB LD Unk GSc IR IS WPA aLI RE24
Brett Myers, W (9-10) 8 3 0 0 2 10 0 4.19 28 118 81 41 10 30 5 11 4 0 84 0.498 1.10 4.0
Brad Lidge, S (34) 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 2.15 5 26 17 11 2 4 0 5 2 0 0 0 0.041 1.44 0.5
Team Totals 9 5 0 0 2 10 0 0.00 33 144 98 52 12 34 5 16 6 0 84 0 0 0.539 1.16 4.5

New York Mets

Pitching IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BF Pit Str Ctct StS StL GB FB LD Unk GSc IR IS WPA aLI RE24
Mike Pelfrey, L (13-9) 7 4 3 2 2 4 1 3.62 26 113 70 41 9 20 10 10 1 0 61 0.016 0.83 0.5
Brian Stokes 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 2.38 3 14 9 6 1 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0.015 0.19 0.5
Ricardo Rincon 0.2 0 0 0 0 1 0 0.00 2 11 8 4 4 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0.006 0.12 0.4
Duaner Sanchez 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 4.14 1 2 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0.002 0.07 0.1
Team Totals 9 4 3 2 2 6 1 2.00 32 140 88 52 14 22 12 12 1 0 61 0 0 0.039 0.71 1.5
Balks: None.
WP: None.
HBP: None.
IBB: B Myers (4; B Schneider).
Pickoffs: M Pelfrey (4; J Rollins, 1st base).

Other Info

Umpires: HP - Paul Emmel, 1B - Bill Miller, 2B - Jerry Meals, 3B - Gary Darling.
Time of Game: 2:35.
Attendance: 48,302.
Field Condition: Unknown.
Start Time Weather: 76° F, Wind 16mph from Right to Left.

Starting Lineups

Philadelphia Phillies         New York Mets
1 Jimmy Rollins SS 1 Jose Reyes SS
2 Shane Victorino CF 2 Daniel Murphy LF
3 Chase Utley 2B 3 David Wright 3B
4 Ryan Howard 1B 4 Carlos Delgado 1B
5 Pat Burrell LF 5 Carlos Beltran CF
6 Jayson Werth RF 6 Ryan Church RF
7 Greg Dobbs 3B 7 Luis Castillo 2B
8 Chris Coste C 8 Brian Schneider C
9 Brett Myers P 9 Mike Pelfrey P

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Inn Score Out RoB Pit(cnt) R/O @Bat Batter Pitcher wWPA wWE Play Description
t7 1-0 2 1-- 5,(2-2)  RR PHI G. Dobbs M. Pelfrey 21% 88% Home Run (Fly Ball to Deep RF); Howard Scores
b1 0-1 1 12- 4,(0-2)  OO NYM C. Delgado B. Myers 9% 61% Ground Ball Double Play: 2B-SS-1B
b6 0-1 1 --- 8,(3-2)  NYM D. Murphy B. Myers -7% 57% Double to LF (Fly Ball to Deep LF Line)
b2 0-1 0 --- 1,(0-0)  NYM C. Beltran B. Myers -7% 49% Double to CF (Line Drive to Deep CF-RF)
b9 0-3 1 1-3 5,(3-1)  O NYM C. Beltran B. Lidge 7% 96% Flyball: LF

Play By Play

Inn Score Out RoB Pit(cnt) R/O @Bat Batter Pitcher wWPA wWE Play Description
Top of the 1st, Phillies Batting, Tied 0-0, Mets' Mike Pelfrey facing 1-2-3
t1 0-0 0 --- 3,(2-0)  O PHI J. Rollins M. Pelfrey -2% 48% Flyball: LF
t1 0-0 1 --- 2,(0-1)  PHI S. Victorino M. Pelfrey 2% 50% Single to RF (Ground Ball thru 2B-1B)
t1 0-0 1 1-- 2,(1-0)  PHI C. Utley M. Pelfrey 4% 54% Victorino Steals 2B; Victorino to 3B/Adv on E2 (throw to 2B)
t1 0-0 1 --3 4,(2-1)  RO PHI C. Utley M. Pelfrey 2% 56% Groundout: 1B unassisted (2B-1B); Victorino Scores/unER
t1 1-0 2 --- 1,(0-0)  O PHI R. Howard M. Pelfrey -1% 55% Flyball: LF (Deep LF)
1 run, 1 hit, 1 error, 0 LOB. Phillies 1, Mets 0.
Bottom of the 1st, Mets Batting, Behind 0-1, Phillies' Brett Myers facing 1-2-3
b1 0-1 0 --- 2,(0-1)  O NYM J. Reyes B. Myers 2% 58% Lineout: SS (Weak SS)
b1 0-1 1 --- 2,(0-1)  NYM D. Murphy B. Myers -4% 54% Double to LF (Line Drive to LF Line)
b1 0-1 1 -2- 7,(3-2)  NYM D. Wright B. Myers -2% 51% Walk
b1 0-1 1 12- 4,(0-2)  OO NYM C. Delgado B. Myers 9% 61% Ground Ball Double Play: 2B-SS-1B
0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 1, Mets 0.
Top of the 2nd, Phillies Batting, Ahead 1-0, Mets' Mike Pelfrey facing 5-6-7
t2 1-0 0 --- 7,(3-2)  O PHI P. Burrell M. Pelfrey -2% 58% Strikeout Looking
t2 1-0 1 --- 8,(3-2)  O PHI J. Werth M. Pelfrey -1% 57% Strikeout Swinging
t2 1-0 2 --- 5,(3-1)  PHI G. Dobbs M. Pelfrey 1% 58% Single to CF (Line Drive to Deep CF)
t2 1-0 2 1-- 4,(2-1)  O PHI C. Coste M. Pelfrey -2% 56% Groundout: P-1B
0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 1, Mets 0.
Bottom of the 2nd, Mets Batting, Behind 0-1, Phillies' Brett Myers facing 5-6-7
b2 0-1 0 --- 1,(0-0)  NYM C. Beltran B. Myers -7% 49% Double to CF (Line Drive to Deep CF-RF)
b2 0-1 0 -2- 6,(2-2)  O NYM R. Church B. Myers 5% 54% Strikeout Swinging
b2 0-1 1 -2- 10,(3-2)  O NYM L. Castillo B. Myers 4% 58% Strikeout Looking
b2 0-1 2 -2- 4,(3-0)  NYM B. Schneider B. Myers -1% 57% Intentional Walk
b2 0-1 2 12- 6,(1-2)  O NYM M. Pelfrey B. Myers 5% 61% Strikeout Swinging
0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 2 LOB. Phillies 1, Mets 0.
Top of the 3rd, Phillies Batting, Ahead 1-0, Mets' Mike Pelfrey facing 9-1-2
t3 1-0 0 --- 3,(1-1)  O PHI B. Myers M. Pelfrey -2% 59% Groundout: 2B-1B
t3 1-0 1 --- 4,(2-1)  O PHI J. Rollins M. Pelfrey -2% 58% Groundout: 1B unassisted (2B-1B)
t3 1-0 2 --- 6,(1-2)  O PHI S. Victorino M. Pelfrey -1% 57% Strikeout Swinging
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 1, Mets 0.
Bottom of the 3rd, Mets Batting, Behind 0-1, Phillies' Brett Myers facing 1-2-3
b3 0-1 0 --- 2,(0-1)  O NYM J. Reyes B. Myers 3% 59% Lineout: 1B (2B-1B)
b3 0-1 1 --- 5,(2-2)  O NYM D. Murphy B. Myers 2% 61% Strikeout Swinging
b3 0-1 2 --- 3,(0-2)  O NYM D. Wright B. Myers 1% 63% Strikeout Looking
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 1, Mets 0.
Top of the 4th, Phillies Batting, Ahead 1-0, Mets' Mike Pelfrey facing 3-4-5
t4 1-0 0 --- 2,(1-0)  O PHI C. Utley M. Pelfrey -2% 60% Foul Popfly: 3B (3B Foul)
t4 1-0 1 --- 6,(3-2)  PHI R. Howard M. Pelfrey 2% 63% Walk
t4 1-0 1 1-- 1,(0-0)  O PHI P. Burrell M. Pelfrey -3% 60% Popfly: 2B (2B-1B)
t4 1-0 2 1-- 4,(1-2)  O PHI J. Werth M. Pelfrey -2% 57% Groundout: P-1B (Weak SS-2B)
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 1, Mets 0.
Bottom of the 4th, Mets Batting, Behind 0-1, Phillies' Brett Myers facing 4-5-6
b4 0-1 0 --- 1,(0-0)  O NYM C. Delgado B. Myers 3% 61% Flyball: CF (Deep CF)
b4 0-1 1 --- 4,(1-2)  O NYM C. Beltran B. Myers 2% 63% Strikeout Swinging
b4 0-1 2 --- 4,(1-2)  O NYM R. Church B. Myers 1% 64% Strikeout Swinging
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 1, Mets 0.
Top of the 5th, Phillies Batting, Ahead 1-0, Mets' Mike Pelfrey facing 7-8-9
t5 1-0 0 --- 4,(2-1)  O PHI G. Dobbs M. Pelfrey -2% 62% Popfly: SS (Deep SS-3B Hole)
t5 1-0 1 --- 2,(0-1)  O PHI C. Coste M. Pelfrey -2% 60% Groundout: 3B-1B (Weak 3B)
t5 1-0 2 --- 2,(0-1)  O PHI B. Myers M. Pelfrey -1% 59% Groundout: C-1B (Short 1B Line)
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 1, Mets 0.
Bottom of the 5th, Mets Batting, Behind 0-1, Phillies' Brett Myers facing 7-8-9
b5 0-1 0 --- 7,(3-2)  O NYM L. Castillo B. Myers 3% 62% Strikeout Looking
b5 0-1 1 --- 4,(2-1)  O NYM B. Schneider B. Myers 2% 65% Groundout: 1B-P (2B-1B)
b5 0-1 2 --- 5,(2-2)  O NYM M. Pelfrey B. Myers 2% 66% Groundout: SS-1B (Weak SS)
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 1, Mets 0.
Top of the 6th, Phillies Batting, Ahead 1-0, Mets' Mike Pelfrey facing 1-2-3
t6 1-0 0 --- 5,(1-2)  PHI J. Rollins M. Pelfrey 4% 70% Single to CF (Ground Ball thru SS-2B)
t6 1-0 0 1-- O PHI S. Victorino M. Pelfrey -6% 64% Rollins Picked off 1B (P-1B)
t6 1-0 1 --- 6,(2-2)  O PHI S. Victorino M. Pelfrey -2% 62% Flyball: CF (Deep CF)
t6 1-0 2 --- 6,(3-2)  O PHI C. Utley M. Pelfrey -1% 61% Groundout: 2B-1B
0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 1, Mets 0.
Bottom of the 6th, Mets Batting, Behind 0-1, Phillies' Brett Myers facing 1-2-3
b6 0-1 0 --- 3,(1-1)  O NYM J. Reyes B. Myers 4% 65% Flyball: RF
b6 0-1 1 --- 8,(3-2)  NYM D. Murphy B. Myers -7% 57% Double to LF (Fly Ball to Deep LF Line)
b6 0-1 1 -2- 3,(0-2)  O NYM D. Wright B. Myers 6% 64% Popfly: 2B (Short RF)
b6 0-1 2 -2- 5,(2-2)  O NYM C. Delgado B. Myers 6% 70% Flyball: CF
0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Phillies 1, Mets 0.
Top of the 7th, Phillies Batting, Ahead 1-0, Mets' Mike Pelfrey facing 4-5-6
t7 1-0 0 --- 6,(3-2)  PHI R. Howard M. Pelfrey 4% 73% Walk
t7 1-0 0 1-- 10,(3-2)  O PHI P. Burrell M. Pelfrey -4% 70% Flyball: LF
t7 1-0 1 1-- 4,(1-2)  O PHI J. Werth M. Pelfrey -3% 67% Strikeout Swinging
t7 1-0 2 1-- 5,(2-2)  RR PHI G. Dobbs M. Pelfrey 21% 88% Home Run (Fly Ball to Deep RF); Howard Scores
t7 3-0 2 --- 3,(0-2)  O PHI C. Coste M. Pelfrey -0% 88% Flyball: LF (Deep LF)
2 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 3, Mets 0.
Bottom of the 7th, Mets Batting, Behind 0-3, Phillies' Brett Myers facing 5-6-7
Pedro Feliz replaces Greg Dobbs playing 3B batting 7th
b7 0-3 0 --- 2,(0-1)  O NYM C. Beltran B. Myers 3% 90% Foul Popfly: 1B (1B Foul)
b7 0-3 1 --- 3,(1-1)  O NYM R. Church B. Myers 2% 92% Groundout: 2B-1B (2B-1B)
b7 0-3 2 --- 6,(3-2)  O NYM L. Castillo B. Myers 1% 93% Strikeout Looking
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 3, Mets 0.
Top of the 8th, Phillies Batting, Ahead 3-0, Mets' Brian Stokes facing 9-1-2
Brian Stokes replaces Mike Pelfrey pitching and batting 9th
t8 3-0 0 --- 2,(0-1)  O PHI B. Myers B. Stokes -1% 92% Groundout: 2B-1B (2B-1B)
t8 3-0 1 --- 7,(3-2)  O PHI J. Rollins B. Stokes -0% 92% Strikeout Swinging
t8 3-0 2 --- 5,(2-2)  O PHI S. Victorino B. Stokes -0% 92% Groundout: SS-1B (Weak SS)
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 3, Mets 0.
Bottom of the 8th, Mets Batting, Behind 0-3, Phillies' Brett Myers facing 8-9-1
Eric Bruntlett replaces Pat Burrell playing LF batting 5th
b8 0-3 0 --- 6,(2-2)  O NYM B. Schneider B. Myers 3% 94% Groundout: 1B unassisted (2B-1B)
Marlon Anderson pinch hits for Brian Stokes (P) batting 9th
b8 0-3 1 --- 2,(0-1)  O NYM M. Anderson B. Myers 2% 96% Flyball: LF (LF-CF)
b8 0-3 2 --- 3,(0-2)  O NYM J. Reyes B. Myers 1% 97% Strikeout Swinging
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 3, Mets 0.
Top of the 9th, Phillies Batting, Ahead 3-0, Mets' Ricardo Rincon facing 3-4-5
Ricardo Rincon replaces Marlon Anderson (PH) pitching and batting 9th
t9 3-0 0 --- 5,(1-2)  O PHI C. Utley R. Rincon -0% 96% Flyball: RF (CF-RF)
t9 3-0 1 --- 6,(2-2)  O PHI R. Howard R. Rincon -0% 96% Strikeout Swinging
Duaner Sanchez replaces Ricardo Rincon pitching and batting 9th
t9 3-0 2 --- 2,(1-0)  O PHI E. Bruntlett D. Sanchez -0% 96% Flyball: RF (CF-RF)
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Phillies 3, Mets 0.
Bottom of the 9th, Mets Batting, Behind 0-3, Phillies' Brad Lidge facing 2-3-4
Brad Lidge replaces Brett Myers pitching and batting 9th
Carlos Ruiz replaces Chris Coste playing C batting 8th
b9 0-3 0 --- 10,(3-2)  O NYM D. Murphy B. Lidge 2% 98% Flyball: CF (Deep LF-CF)
b9 0-3 1 --- 3,(0-2)  NYM D. Wright B. Lidge -3% 95% Ground-rule Double (Fly Ball to Deep CF-RF)
b9 0-3 1 -2- 5,(3-1)  NYM C. Delgado B. Lidge -6% 89% Single to CF (Line Drive); Wright to 3B
b9 0-3 1 1-3 5,(3-1)  O NYM C. Beltran B. Lidge 7% 96% Flyball: LF
b9 0-3 2 1-3 1,(0-0)  NYM R. Church B. Lidge -1% 95% Defensive Indifference; Delgado to 2B
b9 0-3 2 -23 3,(0-2)  O NYM R. Church B. Lidge 5% 100% Lineout: CF (Deep CF)
0 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 2 LOB. Phillies 3, Mets 0.

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