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Shea Stadium, Attendance: 27,097 |
Wednesday, April 29, 1987 Time of Game: 2:40 |
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Astros
1
12-9
Lost 1
3rd, 2½ GB
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
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Astros 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 8 1
Mets 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 X 2 7 0
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Mets
2
10-9
Won 1
2nd, 1 GB
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Batting Stats
Houston Astros AB R H RBI BB SO BA OPS Pit Str PO A Details B Doran 2B 4 0 1 0 0 0 .200 .662 1 3 B Hatcher CF 4 0 2 0 0 1 .391 1.022 1 1 P Garner 3B 3 0 1 0 0 1 .292 .766 1 1 D Walling PH-3B 1 0 0 0 0 0 .273 .688 0 0 GDP G Davis 1B 4 0 1 0 0 1 .247 .649 7 0 K Bass RF 4 1 1 0 0 1 .298 .821 0 0 2B,SB J Pankovits LF 3 0 0 0 0 2 .200 .400 1 0 T Puhl PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 .231 .632 0 0 A Ashby C 4 0 1 0 0 0 .268 .685 12 0 B Pena SS 2 0 0 0 1 0 .150 .411 1 1 M Bailey PH 1 0 1 1 0 0 .280 .699 0 0 D Darwin PR 0 0 0 0 0 0 .100 .200 0 0 M Scott P 1 0 0 0 1 1 .000 .143 0 2 T Waller PH 1 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 0 0 B Knepper P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .167 .333 0 0 J Cruz PH 1 0 0 0 0 1 .242 .712 0 0 Totals 34 1 8 0 2 9 24 8
Batting Events
2B: K Bass (6, off D Sisk).
TB: K Bass 2; B Hatcher 2; A Ashby; M Bailey; P Garner; G Davis; B Doran.
GIDP: D Walling (2).
RBI: M Bailey (1).
2-out RBI: M Bailey.
Team LOB: 8.
With RISP: 1 for 8.
Fielding Events
E: B Pena (1).
Baserunning Events
SB: K Bass (4, 2nd base off S Fernandez/G Carter).
New York Mets AB R H RBI BB SO BA OPS Pit Str PO A Details L Dykstra CF 4 0 1 0 0 1 .255 .815 5 0 D Sisk P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 J Orosco P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 0 0 W Backman 2B 4 0 0 0 0 1 .222 .552 2 3 K Hernandez 1B 3 1 2 2 0 1 .296 .864 3 0 HR,HBP G Carter C 4 0 1 0 0 3 .243 .694 9 0 D Strawberry RF 4 0 0 0 0 2 .296 .960 3 0 K McReynolds LF 3 0 0 0 0 2 .310 .927 0 0 H Johnson 3B 3 0 0 0 0 0 .220 .668 2 0 R Santana SS 3 0 1 0 0 1 .197 .508 2 3 2B S Fernandez P 2 1 2 0 0 0 .333 .667 0 0 M Wilson PH-CF 1 0 0 0 0 1 .375 1.058 1 0 Totals 31 2 7 0 0 12 27 6
Batting Events
2B: R Santana (1, off M Scott).
HR: K Hernandez (3, off M Scott; 4th inn, 0 on, 0 outs to LF-CF).
HBP: K Hernandez (1, by B Knepper).
TB: K Hernandez 5; S Fernandez 2; R Santana 2; G Carter; L Dykstra.
RBI: K Hernandez 2 (9).
2-out RBI: K Hernandez.
Team LOB: 6.
With RISP: 1 for 3.
Fielding Events
DP: 1. W Backman-R Santana-K Hernandez.
Pitching Stats
Houston Astros IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BF Pit-Str Ct·Sw·Lk GB·FB·LD· ? GmSc IR-IS LevI WPA M Scott, L (3-1) 6 7 2 2 0 7 1 2.05 25 - · · 9· 8· 4· 1 57 - 0.90 0.02 B Knepper 2 0 0 0 0 5 0 6.04 7 - · · 0· 1· 0· 0 0-0 0.31 0.04 Totals 8 7 2 2 0 12 1 32 - · · 9· 9· 4· 1 -
New York Mets IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BF Pit-Str Ct·Sw·Lk GB·FB·LD· ? GmSc IR-IS LevI WPA S Fernandez, W (4-1) 7 5 0 0 2 8 0 2.18 28 - · · 4·14· 6· 0 73 - 1.29 0.41 D Sisk, H (2) 1 2 1 1 0 0 0 4.22 4 - · · 3· 1· 1· 0 0-0 1.57 -0.01 J Orosco, S (6) 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 5.79 4 - · · 1· 2· 0· 0 1-1 2.29 0.16 Totals 9 8 1 1 2 9 0 36 - · · 8·17· 7· 0 1-1
D Sisk faced 1 batter in the 9th inning.
Balks: None.
WP: None.
HBP: B Knepper (2; K Hernandez).
IBB: None.
Pickoffs: None.
Other Info
Umpires:
HP - Randy Marsh, 1B - Bob Engel, 2B - Paul Runge, 3B - Joe West.
Time of Game: 2:40.
Attendance: 27,097.
Field Condition: Unknown.
Start Time Weather: Unknown.
Lineups
Houston Astros New York Mets 1. Bill Doran 2B 1. Lenny Dykstra CF 2. Billy Hatcher CF 2. Wally Backman 2B 3. Phil Garner 3B 3. Keith Hernandez 1B 4. Glenn Davis 1B 4. Gary Carter C 5. Kevin Bass RF 5. Darryl Strawberry RF 6. Jim Pankovits LF 6. Kevin McReynolds LF 7. Alan Ashby C 7. Howard Johnson 3B 8. Bert Pena SS 8. Rafael Santana SS 9. Mike Scott P 9. Sid Fernandez P
Top 5 Plays
Glossary · Click headers to sort · CSV · PRE · View Pitches · wWE and wWPA Explanation| Inn | Out | RoB | R/O | Pit(cnt) | wWPA | wWE | Score | @Bat | Batter | Pitcher | Play Description |
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| b4 | 0 | --- | R | 13% | 69% | 0-0 | NYM | K. Hernandez | M. Scott | Home Run (LF-CF) | |
| t8 | 0 | 1-- | OO | 12% | 93% | 0-2 | HOU | D. Walling | D. Sisk | Ground Ball Double Play: 2B-SS-1B | |
| b5 | 2 | 12- | R | 11% | 82% | 1-0 | NYM | K. Hernandez | M. Scott | Single to RF (Line Drive to 2B-1B); Fernandez Scores; Dykstra to 3B | |
| t9 | 0 | --- | -9% | 84% | 0-2 | HOU | K. Bass | D. Sisk | Double to RF (Line Drive to CF-RF) | ||
| t9 | 2 | 1-- | O | 8% | 100% | 1-2 | HOU | J. Cruz | J. Orosco | Strikeout |
Play By Play
Glossary · Click headers to sort · CSV · PRE · View Pitches · Box Score Explanation · wWE and wWPA Explanation| Inn | Out | RoB | R/O | Pit(cnt) | wWPA | wWE | Score | @Bat | Batter | Pitcher | Play Description |
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| Top of the 1st, Astros Batting, Tied 0-0, Mets' Sid Fernandez facing 1-2-3 | |||||||||||
| t1 | 0 | --- | -3% | 47% | 0-0 | HOU | B. Doran | S. Fernandez | Single to CF (Line Drive to Short CF-RF) | ||
| t1 | 0 | 1-- | -6% | 41% | 0-0 | HOU | B. Hatcher | S. Fernandez | Single to CF (Line Drive to Short CF); Doran to 2B | ||
| t1 | 0 | 12- | O | 5% | 46% | 0-0 | HOU | P. Garner | S. Fernandez | Strikeout | |
| t1 | 1 | 12- | O | 4% | 50% | 0-0 | HOU | G. Davis | S. Fernandez | Foul Flyball: 3B | |
| t1 | 2 | 12- | O | 4% | 55% | 0-0 | HOU | K. Bass | S. Fernandez | Strikeout Looking | |
| 0 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 2 LOB. Astros 0, Mets 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 1st, Mets Batting, Tied 0-0, Astros' Mike Scott facing 1-2-3 | |||||||||||
| b1 | 0 | --- | O | -2% | 52% | 0-0 | NYM | L. Dykstra | M. Scott | Lineout: 1B | |
| b1 | 1 | --- | O | -1% | 51% | 0-0 | NYM | W. Backman | M. Scott | Groundout: 2B-1B | |
| b1 | 2 | --- | O | -1% | 50% | 0-0 | NYM | K. Hernandez | M. Scott | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Astros 0, Mets 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 2nd, Astros Batting, Tied 0-0, Mets' Sid Fernandez facing 6-7-8 | |||||||||||
| t2 | 0 | --- | O | 2% | 52% | 0-0 | HOU | J. Pankovits | S. Fernandez | Strikeout | |
| t2 | 1 | --- | O | 1% | 54% | 0-0 | HOU | A. Ashby | S. Fernandez | Groundout: SS-1B | |
| t2 | 2 | --- | -1% | 53% | 0-0 | HOU | B. Pena | S. Fernandez | Walk | ||
| t2 | 2 | 1-- | O | 2% | 55% | 0-0 | HOU | M. Scott | S. Fernandez | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Astros 0, Mets 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 2nd, Mets Batting, Tied 0-0, Astros' Mike Scott facing 4-5-6 | |||||||||||
| b2 | 0 | --- | O | -2% | 53% | 0-0 | NYM | G. Carter | M. Scott | Strikeout | |
| b2 | 1 | --- | O | -2% | 51% | 0-0 | NYM | D. Strawberry | M. Scott | Groundout: 2B-1B | |
| b2 | 2 | --- | 1% | 52% | 0-0 | NYM | K. McReynolds | M. Scott | Reached on E6 (Ground Ball); McReynolds to 1B | ||
| b2 | 2 | 1-- | O | -2% | 50% | 0-0 | NYM | H. Johnson | M. Scott | Flyball: 2B | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 1 error, 1 LOB. Astros 0, Mets 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 3rd, Astros Batting, Tied 0-0, Mets' Sid Fernandez facing 1-2-3 | |||||||||||
| t3 | 0 | --- | O | 2% | 52% | 0-0 | HOU | B. Doran | S. Fernandez | Flyball: CF | |
| t3 | 1 | --- | O | 2% | 54% | 0-0 | HOU | B. Hatcher | S. Fernandez | Foul Flyball: 3B | |
| t3 | 2 | --- | O | 1% | 55% | 0-0 | HOU | P. Garner | S. Fernandez | Flyball: CF | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Astros 0, Mets 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 3rd, Mets Batting, Tied 0-0, Astros' Mike Scott facing 8-9-1 | |||||||||||
| b3 | 0 | --- | O | -3% | 53% | 0-0 | NYM | R. Santana | M. Scott | Double to CF (Line Drive to Deep LF-CF); Santana out at 3B/CF-SS-3B | |
| b3 | 1 | --- | 3% | 56% | 0-0 | NYM | S. Fernandez | M. Scott | Single to LF (Fly Ball to Short LF) | ||
| b3 | 1 | 1-- | O | -3% | 53% | 0-0 | NYM | L. Dykstra | M. Scott | Flyball: SS | |
| b3 | 2 | 1-- | O | -3% | 50% | 0-0 | NYM | W. Backman | M. Scott | Groundout: 2B-1B | |
| 0 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Astros 0, Mets 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 4th, Astros Batting, Tied 0-0, Mets' Sid Fernandez facing 4-5-6 | |||||||||||
| t4 | 0 | --- | -4% | 46% | 0-0 | HOU | G. Davis | S. Fernandez | Single to CF (Line Drive to SS-2B) | ||
| t4 | 0 | 1-- | O | 4% | 50% | 0-0 | HOU | K. Bass | S. Fernandez | Groundout: SS-2B/Forceout at 2B | |
| t4 | 1 | 1-- | -2% | 48% | 0-0 | HOU | J. Pankovits | S. Fernandez | Bass Steals 2B | ||
| t4 | 1 | -2- | O | 4% | 52% | 0-0 | HOU | J. Pankovits | S. Fernandez | Strikeout | |
| t4 | 2 | -2- | O | 4% | 56% | 0-0 | HOU | A. Ashby | S. Fernandez | Flyball: CF | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Astros 0, Mets 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 4th, Mets Batting, Tied 0-0, Astros' Mike Scott facing 3-4-5 | |||||||||||
| b4 | 0 | --- | R | 13% | 69% | 0-0 | NYM | K. Hernandez | M. Scott | Home Run (LF-CF) | |
| b4 | 0 | --- | 3% | 72% | 1-0 | NYM | G. Carter | M. Scott | Single to LF (Ground Ball thru SS-3B Hole) | ||
| b4 | 0 | 1-- | O | -3% | 69% | 1-0 | NYM | D. Strawberry | M. Scott | Flyball: LF | |
| b4 | 1 | 1-- | O | -2% | 67% | 1-0 | NYM | K. McReynolds | M. Scott | Strikeout | |
| b4 | 2 | 1-- | O | -2% | 65% | 1-0 | NYM | H. Johnson | M. Scott | Groundout: P-1B | |
| 1 run, 2 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Astros 0, Mets 1. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 5th, Astros Batting, Behind 0-1, Mets' Sid Fernandez facing 8-9-1 | |||||||||||
| t5 | 0 | --- | O | 3% | 68% | 0-1 | HOU | B. Pena | S. Fernandez | Flyball: CF | |
| t5 | 1 | --- | -4% | 64% | 0-1 | HOU | M. Scott | S. Fernandez | Walk | ||
| t5 | 1 | 1-- | O | 4% | 68% | 0-1 | HOU | B. Doran | S. Fernandez | Lineout: 2B | |
| t5 | 2 | 1-- | O | 3% | 71% | 0-1 | HOU | B. Hatcher | S. Fernandez | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Astros 0, Mets 1. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 5th, Mets Batting, Ahead 1-0, Astros' Mike Scott facing 8-9-1 | |||||||||||
| b5 | 0 | --- | O | -2% | 69% | 1-0 | NYM | R. Santana | M. Scott | Groundout: 3B-1B | |
| b5 | 1 | --- | 2% | 72% | 1-0 | NYM | S. Fernandez | M. Scott | Single to CF (Ground Ball thru SS-2B) | ||
| b5 | 1 | 1-- | 3% | 75% | 1-0 | NYM | L. Dykstra | M. Scott | Single to 3B (Line Drive); Fernandez to 2B | ||
| b5 | 1 | 12- | O | -4% | 71% | 1-0 | NYM | W. Backman | M. Scott | Strikeout | |
| b5 | 2 | 12- | R | 11% | 82% | 1-0 | NYM | K. Hernandez | M. Scott | Single to RF (Line Drive to 2B-1B); Fernandez Scores; Dykstra to 3B | |
| b5 | 2 | 1-3 | O | -3% | 79% | 2-0 | NYM | G. Carter | M. Scott | Strikeout | |
| 1 run, 3 hits, 0 errors, 2 LOB. Astros 0, Mets 2. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 6th, Astros Batting, Behind 0-2, Mets' Sid Fernandez facing 3-4-5 | |||||||||||
| t6 | 0 | --- | -5% | 74% | 0-2 | HOU | P. Garner | S. Fernandez | Single to LF (Line Drive to Short LF) | ||
| t6 | 0 | 1-- | O | 5% | 78% | 0-2 | HOU | G. Davis | S. Fernandez | Strikeout Looking | |
| t6 | 1 | 1-- | O | 4% | 82% | 0-2 | HOU | K. Bass | S. Fernandez | Lineout: RF | |
| t6 | 2 | 1-- | O | 3% | 85% | 0-2 | HOU | J. Pankovits | S. Fernandez | Flyball: RF | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Astros 0, Mets 2. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 6th, Mets Batting, Ahead 2-0, Astros' Mike Scott facing 5-6-7 | |||||||||||
| b6 | 0 | --- | O | -1% | 84% | 2-0 | NYM | D. Strawberry | M. Scott | Strikeout | |
| b6 | 1 | --- | O | -1% | 83% | 2-0 | NYM | K. McReynolds | M. Scott | Strikeout | |
| b6 | 2 | --- | O | -1% | 82% | 2-0 | NYM | H. Johnson | M. Scott | Groundout: P-1B | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Astros 0, Mets 2. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 7th, Astros Batting, Behind 0-2, Mets' Sid Fernandez facing 7-8-9 | |||||||||||
| t7 | 0 | --- | -6% | 77% | 0-2 | HOU | A. Ashby | S. Fernandez | Single to P (Ground Ball) | ||
| t7 | 0 | 1-- | O | 5% | 82% | 0-2 | HOU | B. Pena | S. Fernandez | Flyball: CF | |
| Ty Waller pinch hits for Mike Scott (P) batting 9th | |||||||||||
| t7 | 1 | 1-- | O | 4% | 86% | 0-2 | HOU | T. Waller | S. Fernandez | Strikeout Looking | |
| t7 | 2 | 1-- | O | 3% | 89% | 0-2 | HOU | B. Doran | S. Fernandez | Groundout: 2B-SS/Forceout at 2B | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Astros 0, Mets 2. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 7th, Mets Batting, Ahead 2-0, Astros' Bob Knepper facing 8-9-1 | |||||||||||
| Bob Knepper replaces Ty Waller (PH) pitching and batting 9th | |||||||||||
| b7 | 0 | --- | O | -1% | 88% | 2-0 | NYM | R. Santana | B. Knepper | Strikeout Looking | |
| Mookie Wilson pinch hits for Sid Fernandez (P) batting 9th | |||||||||||
| b7 | 1 | --- | O | -1% | 88% | 2-0 | NYM | M. Wilson | B. Knepper | Strikeout | |
| b7 | 2 | --- | O | -1% | 87% | 2-0 | NYM | L. Dykstra | B. Knepper | Strikeout Looking | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Astros 0, Mets 2. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 8th, Astros Batting, Behind 0-2, Mets' Doug Sisk facing 2-3-4 | |||||||||||
| Doug Sisk replaces Lenny Dykstra (CF) pitching and batting 1st; Mookie Wilson moves from PH to CF | |||||||||||
| t8 | 0 | --- | -7% | 81% | 0-2 | HOU | B. Hatcher | D. Sisk | Single to CF (Ground Ball) | ||
| Denny Walling pinch hits for Phil Garner (3B) batting 3rd | |||||||||||
| t8 | 0 | 1-- | OO | 12% | 93% | 0-2 | HOU | D. Walling | D. Sisk | Ground Ball Double Play: 2B-SS-1B | |
| t8 | 2 | --- | O | 1% | 94% | 0-2 | HOU | G. Davis | D. Sisk | Groundout: 2B-1B | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Astros 0, Mets 2. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 8th, Mets Batting, Ahead 2-0, Astros' Bob Knepper facing 2-3-4 | |||||||||||
| Denny Walling moves from PH to 3B | |||||||||||
| b8 | 0 | --- | O | -1% | 94% | 2-0 | NYM | W. Backman | B. Knepper | Flyball: CF | |
| b8 | 1 | --- | 1% | 94% | 2-0 | NYM | K. Hernandez | B. Knepper | Hit By Pitch | ||
| b8 | 1 | 1-- | O | -1% | 94% | 2-0 | NYM | G. Carter | B. Knepper | Strikeout | |
| b8 | 2 | 1-- | O | -1% | 93% | 2-0 | NYM | D. Strawberry | B. Knepper | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Astros 0, Mets 2. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 9th, Astros Batting, Behind 0-2, Mets' Doug Sisk facing 5-6-7 | |||||||||||
| t9 | 0 | --- | -9% | 84% | 0-2 | HOU | K. Bass | D. Sisk | Double to RF (Line Drive to CF-RF) | ||
| Jesse Orosco replaces Doug Sisk pitching and batting 1st; Terry Puhl pinch hits for Jim Pankovits (LF) batting 6th | |||||||||||
| t9 | 0 | -2- | O | 6% | 91% | 0-2 | HOU | T. Puhl | J. Orosco | Flyball: RF | |
| t9 | 1 | -2- | O | 6% | 96% | 0-2 | HOU | A. Ashby | J. Orosco | Flyball: CF | |
| Mark Bailey pinch hits for Bert Pena (SS) batting 8th | |||||||||||
| t9 | 2 | -2- | R | -4% | 92% | 0-2 | HOU | M. Bailey | J. Orosco | Single to CF (Ground Ball thru SS-2B); Bass Scores | |
| Jose Cruz pinch hits for Bob Knepper (P) batting 9th; Danny Darwin pinch runs for Mark Bailey (PH) batting 8th | |||||||||||
| t9 | 2 | 1-- | O | 8% | 100% | 1-2 | HOU | J. Cruz | J. Orosco | Strikeout | |
| 1 run, 2 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Astros 1, Mets 2. | |||||||||||
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