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| Second game of doubleheader, see First game.
Shea Stadium, Attendance: 19,940 |
Saturday, August 16, 1969 Time of Game: 2:25 |
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Padres
1
35-83
Lost 8
6th, 31 GB
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
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Padres 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 4 1
Mets 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 X 2 4 0
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Mets
2
64-51
Won 2
2nd, 9 GB
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Batting Stats
San Diego Padres AB R H RBI BB SO BA OPS Pit Str PO A Details J Arcia 2B 4 0 1 0 0 1 .181 .460 3 1 R Pena SS 3 0 0 0 0 1 .233 .567 1 1 SH O Brown RF 4 0 1 0 0 0 .252 .689 1 0 A Ferrara LF 4 0 1 0 0 1 .271 .838 3 0 J Sipin PR 0 0 0 0 0 0 .226 .577 0 0 I Murrell CF 4 0 0 0 0 1 .254 .658 1 0 L Stahl 1B 3 1 1 1 0 0 .197 .602 9 0 HR N Colbert PH 1 0 0 0 0 1 .261 .805 0 0 E Spiezio 3B 1 0 0 0 2 1 .239 .700 0 3 W Hriniak C 3 0 0 0 0 1 .229 .580 6 0 D Kelley P 2 0 0 0 0 1 .111 .244 0 2 G Ross P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 0 0 D Roberts P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .286 .571 0 0 J Baldschun P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250 .650 0 0 C Gaston PH 1 0 0 0 0 1 .213 .549 0 0 F Reberger P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 0 0 Totals 30 1 4 0 2 9 24 7
Batting Events
HR: L Stahl (3, off J McAndrew; 2nd inn, 0 on, 2 outs).
SH: R Pena (4, off J McAndrew).
TB: L Stahl 4; J Arcia; O Brown; A Ferrara.
RBI: L Stahl (9).
2-out RBI: L Stahl.
Team LOB: 5.
With RISP: 0 for 2.
Fielding Events
E: G Ross (2).
New York Mets AB R H RBI BB SO BA OPS Pit Str PO A Details T Agee CF 4 0 0 0 0 1 .276 .834 4 0 B Pfeil 2B-3B 3 0 0 0 1 0 .236 .564 2 1 C Jones LF 3 1 2 1 1 0 .350 .957 1 0 HR,2B D Clendenon 1B 4 0 1 0 0 2 .252 .683 8 1 R Swoboda RF 4 1 0 0 0 1 .240 .651 2 0 E Charles 3B 2 0 0 0 0 0 .197 .586 0 1 W Garrett PH-2B 1 0 0 0 0 0 .245 .610 0 0 D Dyer C 1 0 0 0 1 1 .250 1.025 7 0 E Kranepool PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 .243 .692 0 0 T McGraw P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .105 .308 0 1 A Weis SS 2 0 0 0 0 0 .214 .570 1 2 B Harrelson PH-SS 0 0 0 0 1 0 .233 .618 0 0 IW J McAndrew P 1 0 0 0 0 1 .222 .611 0 1 SH A Shamsky PH 0 0 0 0 0 0 .326 .926 0 0 J Grote PH-C 1 0 1 1 0 0 .231 .620 2 0 Totals 27 2 4 0 4 6 27 7
Batting Events
2B: C Jones (22, off D Kelley).
HR: C Jones (12, off D Kelley; 4th inn, 0 on, 0 outs).
SH: J McAndrew (4, off D Kelley).
IBB: B Harrelson (5, by G Ross).
TB: C Jones 6; J Grote; D Clendenon.
RBI: J Grote (29); C Jones (67).
2-out RBI: J Grote.
Team LOB: 6.
With RISP: 1 for 7.
Baserunning Events
Pickoffs: C Jones (2nd base by D Kelley).
Pitching Stats
San Diego Padres IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BF Pit-Str Ct·Sw·Lk GB·FB·LD· ? GmSc IR-IS LevI WPA D Kelley 6 2 1 1 3 5 1 3.55 22 - · · 5· 7· 0· 2 66 - 1.09 0.21 G Ross, L (1-10) 0.2 0 1 0 1 0 0 4.50 4 - · · 2· 1· 0· 0 0-0 2.03 -0.00 D Roberts 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 5.48 1 - · · 0· 0· 0· 1 2-1 3.13 -0.21 J Baldschun 0.1 0 0 0 0 1 0 4.06 1 - · · 0· 0· 0· 0 2-0 1.64 0.04 F Reberger 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 3.47 4 - · · 1· 2· 0· 1 0-0 0.48 0.03 Totals 8 4 2 1 4 6 1 32 - · · 8·10· 0· 4 4-1
D Roberts faced 1 batter in the 7th inning.
New York Mets IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BF Pit-Str Ct·Sw·Lk GB·FB·LD· ? GmSc IR-IS LevI WPA J McAndrew, W (4-5) 7 3 1 1 2 7 1 4.50 26 - · · 6· 9· 0· 2 72 - 1.03 0.29 T McGraw, S (8) 2 1 0 0 0 2 0 2.84 7 - · · 2· 2· 0· 1 0-0 2.40 0.27 Totals 9 4 1 1 2 9 1 33 - · · 8·11· 0· 3 -
Balks: None.
WP: None.
HBP: None.
IBB: G Ross (8; B Harrelson).
Pickoffs: D Kelley (2; C Jones, 2nd base).
Other Info
Umpires:
HP - John Kibler, 1B - Andy Olsen, 2B - Al Barlick, 3B - Ed Vargo.
Time of Game: 2:25.
Attendance: 19,940.
Field Condition: Unknown.
Start Time Weather: Unknown.
Lineups
San Diego Padres New York Mets 1. Jose Arcia 2B 1. Tommie Agee CF 2. Roberto Pena SS 2. Bobby Pfeil 2B 3. Ollie Brown RF 3. Cleon Jones LF 4. Al Ferrara LF 4. Donn Clendenon 1B 5. Ivan Murrell CF 5. Ron Swoboda RF 6. Larry Stahl 1B 6. Ed Charles 3B 7. Ed Spiezio 3B 7. Duffy Dyer C 8. Walt Hriniak C 8. Al Weis SS 9. Dick Kelley P 9. Jim McAndrew P
Top 5 Plays
Glossary · Click headers to sort · CSV · PRE · View Pitches · wWE and wWPA Explanation| Inn | Out | RoB | R/O | Pit(cnt) | wWPA | wWE | Score | @Bat | Batter | Pitcher | Play Description |
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| b7 | 2 | 1-3 | R | 21% | 80% | 1-1 | NYM | J. Grote | D. Roberts | Single to RF; Swoboda Scores/unER; Harrelson to 3B | |
| b7 | 0 | --- | 18% | 77% | 1-1 | NYM | R. Swoboda | G. Ross | Reached on E1 (throw to 1B) (Ground Ball); Swoboda to 3B | ||
| b4 | 0 | --- | R | 14% | 56% | 0-1 | NYM | C. Jones | D. Kelley | Home Run | |
| b7 | 1 | --3 | O | -12% | 57% | 1-1 | NYM | E. Kranepool | G. Ross | Groundout: 1B unassisted | |
| t2 | 2 | --- | R | -12% | 42% | 0-0 | SDP | L. Stahl | J. McAndrew | Home Run |
Play By Play
Glossary · Click headers to sort · CSV · PRE · View Pitches · Box Score Explanation · wWE and wWPA Explanation| Inn | Out | RoB | R/O | Pit(cnt) | wWPA | wWE | Score | @Bat | Batter | Pitcher | Play Description |
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| Top of the 1st, Padres Batting, Tied 0-0, Mets' Jim McAndrew facing 1-2-3 | |||||||||||
| t1 | 0 | --- | O | 2% | 52% | 0-0 | SDP | J. Arcia | J. McAndrew | Strikeout | |
| t1 | 1 | --- | O | 2% | 54% | 0-0 | SDP | R. Pena | J. McAndrew | Groundout: SS-1B | |
| t1 | 2 | --- | O | 1% | 55% | 0-0 | SDP | O. Brown | J. McAndrew | Popfly: SS | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Padres 0, Mets 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 1st, Mets Batting, Tied 0-0, Padres' Dick Kelley facing 1-2-3 | |||||||||||
| b1 | 0 | --- | O | -2% | 52% | 0-0 | NYM | T. Agee | D. Kelley | Groundout: 2B-1B | |
| b1 | 1 | --- | 2% | 55% | 0-0 | NYM | B. Pfeil | D. Kelley | Walk | ||
| b1 | 1 | 1-- | 4% | 58% | 0-0 | NYM | C. Jones | D. Kelley | Walk; Pfeil to 2B | ||
| b1 | 1 | 12- | O | -4% | 54% | 0-0 | NYM | D. Clendenon | D. Kelley | Flyball: RF | |
| b1 | 2 | 12- | O | -4% | 50% | 0-0 | NYM | R. Swoboda | D. Kelley | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 2 LOB. Padres 0, Mets 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 2nd, Padres Batting, Tied 0-0, Mets' Jim McAndrew facing 4-5-6 | |||||||||||
| t2 | 0 | --- | O | 2% | 52% | 0-0 | SDP | A. Ferrara | J. McAndrew | Popfly: 1B | |
| t2 | 1 | --- | O | 2% | 54% | 0-0 | SDP | I. Murrell | J. McAndrew | Flyball: CF | |
| t2 | 2 | --- | R | -12% | 42% | 0-0 | SDP | L. Stahl | J. McAndrew | Home Run | |
| t2 | 2 | --- | O | 1% | 43% | 1-0 | SDP | E. Spiezio | J. McAndrew | Strikeout | |
| 1 run, 1 hit, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Padres 1, Mets 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 2nd, Mets Batting, Behind 0-1, Padres' Dick Kelley facing 6-7-8 | |||||||||||
| b2 | 0 | --- | O | -3% | 41% | 0-1 | NYM | E. Charles | D. Kelley | Flyball: CF | |
| b2 | 1 | --- | O | -2% | 39% | 0-1 | NYM | D. Dyer | D. Kelley | Strikeout Looking | |
| b2 | 2 | --- | O | -1% | 38% | 0-1 | NYM | A. Weis | D. Kelley | Foul Flyball: 1B | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Padres 1, Mets 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 3rd, Padres Batting, Ahead 1-0, Mets' Jim McAndrew facing 8-9-1 | |||||||||||
| t3 | 0 | --- | O | 2% | 40% | 1-0 | SDP | W. Hriniak | J. McAndrew | Groundout: SS-1B | |
| t3 | 1 | --- | O | 2% | 42% | 1-0 | SDP | D. Kelley | J. McAndrew | Strikeout Looking | |
| t3 | 2 | --- | O | 1% | 43% | 1-0 | SDP | J. Arcia | J. McAndrew | Groundout: 3B-1B | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Padres 1, Mets 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 3rd, Mets Batting, Behind 0-1, Padres' Dick Kelley facing 9-1-2 | |||||||||||
| b3 | 0 | --- | O | -3% | 40% | 0-1 | NYM | J. McAndrew | D. Kelley | Strikeout | |
| b3 | 1 | --- | O | -2% | 38% | 0-1 | NYM | T. Agee | D. Kelley | Foul Flyball: 1B | |
| b3 | 2 | --- | O | -1% | 37% | 0-1 | NYM | B. Pfeil | D. Kelley | Groundout: P-1B | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Padres 1, Mets 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 4th, Padres Batting, Ahead 1-0, Mets' Jim McAndrew facing 2-3-4 | |||||||||||
| t4 | 0 | --- | O | 2% | 39% | 1-0 | SDP | R. Pena | J. McAndrew | Strikeout | |
| t4 | 1 | --- | -2% | 37% | 1-0 | SDP | O. Brown | J. McAndrew | Single to LF | ||
| t4 | 1 | 1-- | O | 3% | 39% | 1-0 | SDP | A. Ferrara | J. McAndrew | Flyball: CF | |
| t4 | 2 | 1-- | O | 2% | 41% | 1-0 | SDP | I. Murrell | J. McAndrew | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Padres 1, Mets 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 4th, Mets Batting, Behind 0-1, Padres' Dick Kelley facing 3-4-5 | |||||||||||
| b4 | 0 | --- | R | 14% | 56% | 0-1 | NYM | C. Jones | D. Kelley | Home Run | |
| b4 | 0 | --- | O | -3% | 53% | 1-1 | NYM | D. Clendenon | D. Kelley | Strikeout | |
| b4 | 1 | --- | O | -2% | 51% | 1-1 | NYM | R. Swoboda | D. Kelley | Groundout: 3B-1B | |
| b4 | 2 | --- | O | -1% | 50% | 1-1 | NYM | E. Charles | D. Kelley | Flyball: LF | |
| 1 run, 1 hit, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Padres 1, Mets 1. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 5th, Padres Batting, Tied 1-1, Mets' Jim McAndrew facing 6-7-8 | |||||||||||
| t5 | 0 | --- | O | 3% | 53% | 1-1 | SDP | L. Stahl | J. McAndrew | Flyball: RF | |
| t5 | 1 | --- | -3% | 50% | 1-1 | SDP | E. Spiezio | J. McAndrew | Walk | ||
| t5 | 1 | 1-- | O | 4% | 53% | 1-1 | SDP | W. Hriniak | J. McAndrew | Strikeout | |
| t5 | 2 | 1-- | O | 3% | 56% | 1-1 | SDP | D. Kelley | J. McAndrew | Popfly: 2B | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Padres 1, Mets 1. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 5th, Mets Batting, Tied 1-1, Padres' Dick Kelley facing 7-8-9 | |||||||||||
| b5 | 0 | --- | 5% | 61% | 1-1 | NYM | D. Dyer | D. Kelley | Walk | ||
| b5 | 0 | 1-- | O | -4% | 57% | 1-1 | NYM | A. Weis | D. Kelley | Groundout: SS-2B/Forceout at 2B | |
| b5 | 1 | 1-- | O | -2% | 55% | 1-1 | NYM | J. McAndrew | D. Kelley | Bunt Groundout: 3B-2B/Sacrifice; Weis to 2B | |
| b5 | 2 | -2- | O | -5% | 50% | 1-1 | NYM | T. Agee | D. Kelley | Foul Flyball: 1B | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Padres 1, Mets 1. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 6th, Padres Batting, Tied 1-1, Mets' Jim McAndrew facing 1-2-3 | |||||||||||
| t6 | 0 | --- | -5% | 45% | 1-1 | SDP | J. Arcia | J. McAndrew | Single to 3B/Bunt | ||
| t6 | 0 | 1-- | O | 2% | 47% | 1-1 | SDP | R. Pena | J. McAndrew | Bunt Groundout: 1B-2B/Sacrifice; Arcia to 2B | |
| t6 | 1 | -2- | O | 5% | 52% | 1-1 | SDP | O. Brown | J. McAndrew | Flyball: LF | |
| t6 | 2 | -2- | O | 5% | 57% | 1-1 | SDP | A. Ferrara | J. McAndrew | Strikeout Looking | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Padres 1, Mets 1. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 6th, Mets Batting, Tied 1-1, Padres' Dick Kelley facing 2-3-4 | |||||||||||
| b6 | 0 | --- | O | -3% | 54% | 1-1 | NYM | B. Pfeil | D. Kelley | Flyball: LF | |
| b6 | 1 | --- | 6% | 61% | 1-1 | NYM | C. Jones | D. Kelley | Double to RF | ||
| b6 | 1 | -2- | O | -9% | 52% | 1-1 | NYM | D. Clendenon | D. Kelley | Jones Picked off 2B (P-SS) | |
| b6 | 2 | --- | O | -2% | 50% | 1-1 | NYM | D. Clendenon | D. Kelley | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Padres 1, Mets 1. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 7th, Padres Batting, Tied 1-1, Mets' Jim McAndrew facing 5-6-7 | |||||||||||
| t7 | 0 | --- | O | 4% | 54% | 1-1 | SDP | I. Murrell | J. McAndrew | Groundout: P-1B | |
| t7 | 1 | --- | O | 3% | 56% | 1-1 | SDP | L. Stahl | J. McAndrew | Flyball: CF | |
| t7 | 2 | --- | -2% | 54% | 1-1 | SDP | E. Spiezio | J. McAndrew | Walk | ||
| t7 | 2 | 1-- | O | 4% | 58% | 1-1 | SDP | W. Hriniak | J. McAndrew | Flyball: RF | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Padres 1, Mets 1. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 7th, Mets Batting, Tied 1-1, Padres' Gary Ross facing 5-6-7 | |||||||||||
| Gary Ross replaces Dick Kelley pitching and batting 9th | |||||||||||
| b7 | 0 | --- | 18% | 77% | 1-1 | NYM | R. Swoboda | G. Ross | Reached on E1 (throw to 1B) (Ground Ball); Swoboda to 3B | ||
| Wayne Garrett pinch hits for Ed Charles (3B) batting 6th | |||||||||||
| b7 | 0 | --3 | O | -8% | 69% | 1-1 | NYM | W. Garrett | G. Ross | Foul Flyball: 1B | |
| Ed Kranepool pinch hits for Duffy Dyer (C) batting 7th | |||||||||||
| b7 | 1 | --3 | O | -12% | 57% | 1-1 | NYM | E. Kranepool | G. Ross | Groundout: 1B unassisted | |
| Bud Harrelson pinch hits for Al Weis (SS) batting 8th | |||||||||||
| b7 | 2 | --3 | 1% | 59% | 1-1 | NYM | B. Harrelson | G. Ross | Intentional Walk | ||
| Dave Roberts replaces Gary Ross pitching and batting 9th; Art Shamsky pinch hits for Jim McAndrew (P) batting 9th; Jerry Grote pinch hits for Art Shamsky batting 9th | |||||||||||
| b7 | 2 | 1-3 | R | 21% | 80% | 1-1 | NYM | J. Grote | D. Roberts | Single to RF; Swoboda Scores/unER; Harrelson to 3B | |
| Jack Baldschun replaces Dave Roberts pitching and batting 9th | |||||||||||
| b7 | 2 | 1-3 | O | -4% | 76% | 2-1 | NYM | T. Agee | J. Baldschun | Strikeout | |
| 1 run, 1 hit, 1 error, 2 LOB. Padres 1, Mets 2. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 8th, Padres Batting, Behind 1-2, Mets' Tug McGraw facing 9-1-2 | |||||||||||
| Tug McGraw replaces Ed Kranepool (PH) pitching and batting 7th; Jerry Grote moves from PH to C; Wayne Garrett moves from PH to 2B; Bobby Pfeil moves from 2B to 3B; Bud Harrelson moves from PH to SS; Cito Gaston pinch hits for Jack Baldschun (P) batting 9th | |||||||||||
| t8 | 0 | --- | O | 5% | 81% | 1-2 | SDP | C. Gaston | T. McGraw | Strikeout | |
| t8 | 1 | --- | O | 4% | 85% | 1-2 | SDP | J. Arcia | T. McGraw | Popfly: 1B | |
| t8 | 2 | --- | O | 3% | 87% | 1-2 | SDP | R. Pena | T. McGraw | Groundout: 3B-1B | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Padres 1, Mets 2. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 8th, Mets Batting, Ahead 2-1, Padres' Frank Reberger facing 2-3-4 | |||||||||||
| Frank Reberger replaces Cito Gaston (PH) pitching and batting 9th | |||||||||||
| b8 | 0 | --- | O | -1% | 86% | 2-1 | NYM | B. Pfeil | F. Reberger | Flyball: LF | |
| b8 | 1 | --- | O | -1% | 85% | 2-1 | NYM | C. Jones | F. Reberger | Popfly: 2B | |
| b8 | 2 | --- | 1% | 86% | 2-1 | NYM | D. Clendenon | F. Reberger | Single to LF | ||
| b8 | 2 | 1-- | O | -1% | 85% | 2-1 | NYM | R. Swoboda | F. Reberger | Groundout: 3B-1B | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Padres 1, Mets 2. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 9th, Padres Batting, Behind 1-2, Mets' Tug McGraw facing 3-4-5 | |||||||||||
| t9 | 0 | --- | O | 7% | 92% | 1-2 | SDP | O. Brown | T. McGraw | Groundout: P-1B | |
| t9 | 1 | --- | -8% | 84% | 1-2 | SDP | A. Ferrara | T. McGraw | Single to LF (LF-CF) | ||
| John Sipin pinch runs for Al Ferrara (LF) batting 4th | |||||||||||
| t9 | 1 | 1-- | O | 9% | 93% | 1-2 | SDP | I. Murrell | T. McGraw | Flyball: CF | |
| Nate Colbert pinch hits for Larry Stahl (1B) batting 6th | |||||||||||
| t9 | 2 | 1-- | O | 7% | 100% | 1-2 | SDP | N. Colbert | T. McGraw | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Padres 1, Mets 2. | |||||||||||
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