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Cleveland Stadium, Attendance: 11,991 |
Saturday, October 4, 1986 Time of Game: 2:38 |
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Mariners
5
67-94
Lost 8
7th, 25 GB
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
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Mariners 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 3 5 9 1
Indians 0 0 0 4 1 0 0 1 X 6 13 1
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Indians
6
83-78
Won 3
5th, 12½ GB
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Batting Stats
Seattle Mariners AB R H RBI BB SO BA OPS Pit Str PO A Details R Quinones SS 5 0 2 1 0 1 .220 .579 1 4 J Moses CF 4 1 1 0 0 0 .258 .651 2 0 J Presley 3B 4 0 0 0 0 2 .265 .766 1 4 GDP D Tartabull RF 3 0 0 0 1 0 .270 .839 0 1 A Davis DH 4 1 1 0 0 1 .269 .798 0 0 D Hengel LF 3 1 1 1 0 1 .169 .434 0 0 HBP D Valle 1B 4 2 3 3 0 0 .327 1.084 10 1 HR,2B B Kearney C 3 0 0 0 0 1 .240 .659 10 0 S Bradley PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 .306 .793 0 0 H Reynolds 2B 3 0 1 0 0 1 .222 .564 0 2 K Phelps PH 1 0 0 0 0 1 .247 .932 0 0 M Langston P 0 1 Totals 35 5 9 0 1 8 24 13
Batting Events
2B: D Valle (2, off G Swindell).
HR: D Valle (5, off G Swindell; 9th inn, 2 on, 0 outs to CF).
HBP: D Hengel (1, by G Swindell).
TB: D Valle 7; R Quinones 2; D Hengel; A Davis; H Reynolds; J Moses.
GIDP: J Presley (18).
RBI: D Valle 3 (15); R Quinones (22); D Hengel (4).
2-out RBI: D Hengel.
Team LOB: 5.
With RISP: 3 for 10.
Fielding Events
E: J Presley (15).
Cleveland Indians AB R H RBI BB SO BA OPS Pit Str PO A Details O Nixon LF 4 0 1 0 1 1 .263 .678 3 0 2B B Butler CF 4 0 0 0 0 1 .275 .726 3 0 J Franco 2B 4 2 3 1 0 0 .306 .762 1 4 HR,2B J Carter RF 4 1 2 1 0 2 .302 .851 2 0 3B C Snyder SS 4 0 0 0 0 4 .274 .803 2 1 P Tabler 1B 4 1 2 1 0 0 .328 .805 7 1 B Jacoby 3B 4 2 3 0 0 1 .288 .791 1 2 J Bell DH 3 0 1 1 1 0 .357 1.152 0 0 2B A Allanson C 4 0 1 0 0 0 .224 .538 8 0 G Swindell P 0 1 E Camacho P 0 0 Totals 35 6 13 0 2 9 27 9
Batting Events
2B: J Bell (2, off M Langston); O Nixon (4, off M Langston); J Franco (30, off M Langston).
3B: J Carter (9, off M Langston).
HR: J Franco (10, off M Langston; 5th inn, 0 on, 1 out to CF).
TB: J Franco 7; J Carter 4; B Jacoby 3; J Bell 2; P Tabler 2; O Nixon 2; A Allanson.
RBI: J Carter (120); J Bell (4); P Tabler (48); J Franco (74).
Team LOB: 7.
With RISP: 4 for 11.
Fielding Events
DP: 1. C Snyder-J Franco-P Tabler.
E: B Jacoby (25).
Pitching Stats
Seattle Mariners IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BF Pit-Str Ct·Sw·Lk GB·FB·LD· ? GmSc IR-IS LevI WPA M Langston, L (12-14) 8 13 6 6 2 9 1 4.85 37 - · · 10· 3· 0·13 39 - 0.63 -0.27 Totals 8 13 6 6 2 9 1 37 - · · 10· 3· 0·13 -
Cleveland Indians IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BF Pit-Str Ct·Sw·Lk GB·FB·LD· ? GmSc IR-IS LevI WPA G Swindell, W (5-2) 8 9 5 5 1 7 1 3.79 34 - · · 9· 9· 1· 7 50 - 1.04 0.07 E Camacho, S (20) 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 4.08 3 - · · 1· 1· 0· 0 0-0 2.22 0.16 Totals 9 9 5 5 1 8 1 37 - · · 10·10· 1· 7 -
G Swindell faced 3 batters in the 9th inning.
Balks: None.
WP: M Langston 2 (10); G Swindell (3).
HBP: G Swindell (1; D Hengel).
IBB: None.
Pickoffs: None.
Other Info
Umpires:
HP - John Hirschbeck, 1B - Dave Phillips, 2B - Vic Voltaggio, 3B - Larry McCoy.
Time of Game: 2:38.
Attendance: 11,991.
Field Condition: Unknown.
Start Time Weather: Unknown.
Lineups
Seattle Mariners Cleveland Indians 1. Rey Quinones SS 1. Otis Nixon LF 2. John Moses CF 2. Brett Butler CF 3. Jim Presley 3B 3. Julio Franco 2B 4. Danny Tartabull RF 4. Joe Carter RF 5. Alvin Davis DH 5. Cory Snyder SS 6. Dave Hengel LF 6. Pat Tabler 1B 7. Dave Valle 1B 7. Brook Jacoby 3B 8. Bob Kearney C 8. Jay Bell DH 9. Harold Reynolds 2B 9. Andy Allanson C Mark Langston P Greg Swindell P
Top 5 Plays
Glossary · Click headers to sort · CSV · PRE · View Pitches · wWE and wWPA Explanation| Inn | Out | RoB | R/O | Pit(cnt) | wWPA | wWE | Score | @Bat | Batter | Pitcher | Play Description |
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| b4 | 0 | 1-- | R | 20% | 67% | 0-1 | CLE | J. Carter | M. Langston | Triple to CF; Franco Scores | |
| b4 | 1 | 1-- | R | 11% | 80% | 2-1 | CLE | B. Jacoby | M. Langston | Single; Tabler Scores/No RBI; Jacoby to 2B/Adv on E5 (throw) | |
| t9 | 0 | 12- | RRR | -9% | 84% | 2-6 | SEA | D. Valle | G. Swindell | Home Run; Davis Scores; Hengel Scores | |
| t3 | 1 | 1-3 | R | -7% | 35% | 0-0 | SEA | R. Quinones | G. Swindell | Single to LF; Valle Scores; Reynolds to 2B | |
| t9 | 0 | --- | O | 7% | 91% | 5-6 | SEA | S. Bradley | E. Camacho | Groundout: 2B-1B |
Play By Play
Glossary · Click headers to sort · CSV · PRE · View Pitches · Box Score Explanation · wWE and wWPA Explanation| Inn | Out | RoB | R/O | Pit(cnt) | wWPA | wWE | Score | @Bat | Batter | Pitcher | Play Description |
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| Top of the 1st, Mariners Batting, Tied 0-0, Indians' Greg Swindell facing 1-2-3 | |||||||||||
| t1 | 0 | --- | -3% | 47% | 0-0 | SEA | R. Quinones | G. Swindell | Single to CF | ||
| t1 | 0 | 1-- | O | 3% | 50% | 0-0 | SEA | J. Moses | G. Swindell | Lineout: CF | |
| t1 | 1 | 1-- | OO | 5% | 55% | 0-0 | SEA | J. Presley | G. Swindell | Ground Ball Double Play: SS-2B-1B | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Mariners 0, Indians 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 1st, Indians Batting, Tied 0-0, Mariners' Mark Langston facing 1-2-3 | |||||||||||
| b1 | 0 | --- | O | -2% | 53% | 0-0 | CLE | O. Nixon | M. Langston | Strikeout Looking | |
| b1 | 1 | --- | O | -2% | 51% | 0-0 | CLE | B. Butler | M. Langston | Strikeout | |
| b1 | 2 | --- | 2% | 53% | 0-0 | CLE | J. Franco | M. Langston | Double to LF | ||
| b1 | 2 | -2- | O | -3% | 50% | 0-0 | CLE | J. Carter | M. Langston | Single to SS; Franco out at Hm/SS-1B-C | |
| 0 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Mariners 0, Indians 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 2nd, Mariners Batting, Tied 0-0, Indians' Greg Swindell facing 4-5-6 | |||||||||||
| t2 | 0 | --- | O | 2% | 52% | 0-0 | SEA | D. Tartabull | G. Swindell | Flyball: 3B | |
| t2 | 1 | --- | O | 2% | 54% | 0-0 | SEA | A. Davis | G. Swindell | Strikeout | |
| t2 | 2 | --- | O | 1% | 55% | 0-0 | SEA | D. Hengel | G. Swindell | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Mariners 0, Indians 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 2nd, Indians Batting, Tied 0-0, Mariners' Mark Langston facing 5-6-7 | |||||||||||
| b2 | 0 | --- | O | -2% | 53% | 0-0 | CLE | C. Snyder | M. Langston | Strikeout Looking | |
| b2 | 1 | --- | O | -2% | 51% | 0-0 | CLE | P. Tabler | M. Langston | Groundout: 3B-1B | |
| b2 | 2 | --- | O | -1% | 50% | 0-0 | CLE | B. Jacoby | M. Langston | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Mariners 0, Indians 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 3rd, Mariners Batting, Tied 0-0, Indians' Greg Swindell facing 7-8-9 | |||||||||||
| t3 | 0 | --- | -4% | 46% | 0-0 | SEA | D. Valle | G. Swindell | Single to LF | ||
| t3 | 0 | 1-- | O | 4% | 50% | 0-0 | SEA | B. Kearney | G. Swindell | Flyball: RF | |
| t3 | 1 | 1-- | -7% | 43% | 0-0 | SEA | H. Reynolds | G. Swindell | Single to 3B/Bunt; Valle to 3B/Adv on E5 (throw) | ||
| t3 | 1 | 1-3 | R | -7% | 35% | 0-0 | SEA | R. Quinones | G. Swindell | Single to LF; Valle Scores; Reynolds to 2B | |
| t3 | 1 | 12- | O | 4% | 39% | 1-0 | SEA | J. Moses | G. Swindell | Groundout: 1B-SS/Forceout at 2B; Reynolds to 3B | |
| t3 | 2 | 1-3 | O | 5% | 44% | 1-0 | SEA | J. Presley | G. Swindell | Strikeout Looking | |
| 1 run, 3 hits, 1 error, 2 LOB. Mariners 1, Indians 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 3rd, Indians Batting, Behind 0-1, Mariners' Mark Langston facing 8-9-1 | |||||||||||
| b3 | 0 | --- | O | -3% | 41% | 0-1 | CLE | J. Bell | M. Langston | Groundout: SS-1B | |
| b3 | 1 | --- | O | -2% | 39% | 0-1 | CLE | A. Allanson | M. Langston | Groundout: 3B-1B | |
| b3 | 2 | --- | 3% | 41% | 0-1 | CLE | O. Nixon | M. Langston | Double to RF | ||
| b3 | 2 | -2- | O | -4% | 38% | 0-1 | CLE | B. Butler | M. Langston | Groundout: 1B unassisted | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Mariners 1, Indians 0. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 4th, Mariners Batting, Ahead 1-0, Indians' Greg Swindell facing 4-5-6 | |||||||||||
| t4 | 0 | --- | O | 2% | 40% | 1-0 | SEA | D. Tartabull | G. Swindell | Flyball: LF | |
| t4 | 1 | --- | O | 2% | 41% | 1-0 | SEA | A. Davis | G. Swindell | Groundout: 2B-1B | |
| t4 | 2 | --- | O | 1% | 43% | 1-0 | SEA | D. Hengel | G. Swindell | Flyball: CF | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Mariners 1, Indians 0. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 4th, Indians Batting, Behind 0-1, Mariners' Mark Langston facing 3-4-5 | |||||||||||
| b4 | 0 | --- | 5% | 47% | 0-1 | CLE | J. Franco | M. Langston | Single to LF | ||
| b4 | 0 | 1-- | R | 20% | 67% | 0-1 | CLE | J. Carter | M. Langston | Triple to CF; Franco Scores | |
| b4 | 0 | --3 | O | -5% | 62% | 1-1 | CLE | C. Snyder | M. Langston | Strikeout | |
| b4 | 1 | --3 | R | 7% | 69% | 1-1 | CLE | P. Tabler | M. Langston | Single to LF; Carter Scores | |
| b4 | 1 | 1-- | R | 11% | 80% | 2-1 | CLE | B. Jacoby | M. Langston | Single; Tabler Scores/No RBI; Jacoby to 2B/Adv on E5 (throw) | |
| b4 | 1 | -2- | R | 7% | 87% | 3-1 | CLE | J. Bell | M. Langston | Double to LF; Jacoby Scores | |
| b4 | 1 | -2- | O | -1% | 86% | 4-1 | CLE | A. Allanson | M. Langston | Flyball: CF; Bell to 3B | |
| b4 | 2 | --3 | O | -2% | 84% | 4-1 | CLE | O. Nixon | M. Langston | Flyball: CF | |
| 4 runs, 5 hits, 1 error, 1 LOB. Mariners 1, Indians 4. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 5th, Mariners Batting, Behind 1-4, Indians' Greg Swindell facing 7-8-9 | |||||||||||
| t5 | 0 | --- | -6% | 78% | 1-4 | SEA | D. Valle | G. Swindell | Double to LF | ||
| t5 | 0 | -2- | O | 4% | 82% | 1-4 | SEA | B. Kearney | G. Swindell | Strikeout Looking | |
| t5 | 1 | -2- | O | 3% | 86% | 1-4 | SEA | H. Reynolds | G. Swindell | Strikeout Looking | |
| t5 | 2 | -2- | O | 3% | 89% | 1-4 | SEA | R. Quinones | G. Swindell | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Mariners 1, Indians 4. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 5th, Indians Batting, Ahead 4-1, Mariners' Mark Langston facing 2-3-4 | |||||||||||
| b5 | 0 | --- | O | -1% | 88% | 4-1 | CLE | B. Butler | M. Langston | Bunt Groundout: P-1B | |
| b5 | 1 | --- | R | 5% | 93% | 4-1 | CLE | J. Franco | M. Langston | Home Run | |
| b5 | 1 | --- | O | -0% | 92% | 5-1 | CLE | J. Carter | M. Langston | Strikeout Looking | |
| b5 | 2 | --- | O | -0% | 92% | 5-1 | CLE | C. Snyder | M. Langston | Strikeout | |
| 1 run, 1 hit, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Mariners 1, Indians 5. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 6th, Mariners Batting, Behind 1-5, Indians' Greg Swindell facing 2-3-4 | |||||||||||
| t6 | 0 | --- | -3% | 89% | 1-5 | SEA | J. Moses | G. Swindell | Single to 3B/Bunt | ||
| t6 | 0 | 1-- | O | 3% | 92% | 1-5 | SEA | J. Presley | G. Swindell | Strikeout Looking | |
| t6 | 1 | 1-- | -1% | 91% | 1-5 | SEA | D. Tartabull | G. Swindell | Wild Pitch; Moses to 2B | ||
| t6 | 1 | -2- | -2% | 89% | 1-5 | SEA | D. Tartabull | G. Swindell | Walk | ||
| t6 | 1 | 12- | O | 3% | 92% | 1-5 | SEA | A. Davis | G. Swindell | Flyball: LF | |
| t6 | 2 | 12- | R | -6% | 87% | 1-5 | SEA | D. Hengel | G. Swindell | Single to LF; Moses Scores; Tartabull to 3B | |
| t6 | 2 | 1-3 | O | 5% | 91% | 2-5 | SEA | D. Valle | G. Swindell | Groundout: 3B-1B | |
| 1 run, 2 hits, 0 errors, 2 LOB. Mariners 2, Indians 5. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 6th, Indians Batting, Ahead 5-2, Mariners' Mark Langston facing 6-7-8 | |||||||||||
| b6 | 0 | --- | 1% | 92% | 5-2 | CLE | P. Tabler | M. Langston | Single to RF | ||
| b6 | 0 | 1-- | O | -1% | 91% | 5-2 | CLE | B. Jacoby | M. Langston | Single to RF; Tabler out at 3B/RF-2B-3B | |
| b6 | 1 | 1-- | 1% | 93% | 5-2 | CLE | J. Bell | M. Langston | Walk; Jacoby to 2B | ||
| b6 | 1 | 12- | 2% | 94% | 5-2 | CLE | A. Allanson | M. Langston | Wild Pitch; Jacoby to 3B; Bell to 2B | ||
| b6 | 1 | -23 | O | -3% | 92% | 5-2 | CLE | A. Allanson | M. Langston | Groundout: 3B-1B | |
| b6 | 2 | -23 | 0% | 92% | 5-2 | CLE | O. Nixon | M. Langston | Walk | ||
| b6 | 2 | 123 | O | -2% | 90% | 5-2 | CLE | B. Butler | M. Langston | Groundout: 2B-SS/Forceout at 2B | |
| 0 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 3 LOB. Mariners 2, Indians 5. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 7th, Mariners Batting, Behind 2-5, Indians' Greg Swindell facing 8-9-1 | |||||||||||
| t7 | 0 | --- | O | 2% | 92% | 2-5 | SEA | B. Kearney | G. Swindell | Flyball: LF | |
| t7 | 1 | --- | O | 1% | 93% | 2-5 | SEA | H. Reynolds | G. Swindell | Groundout: 2B-1B | |
| t7 | 2 | --- | O | 1% | 94% | 2-5 | SEA | R. Quinones | G. Swindell | Groundout: P-1B | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Mariners 2, Indians 5. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 7th, Indians Batting, Ahead 5-2, Mariners' Mark Langston facing 3-4-5 | |||||||||||
| b7 | 0 | --- | O | -0% | 94% | 5-2 | CLE | J. Franco | M. Langston | Groundout: SS-1B | |
| b7 | 1 | --- | O | -0% | 93% | 5-2 | CLE | J. Carter | M. Langston | Strikeout | |
| b7 | 2 | --- | O | -0% | 93% | 5-2 | CLE | C. Snyder | M. Langston | Strikeout | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Mariners 2, Indians 5. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 8th, Mariners Batting, Behind 2-5, Indians' Greg Swindell facing 2-3-4 | |||||||||||
| t8 | 0 | --- | O | 2% | 95% | 2-5 | SEA | J. Moses | G. Swindell | Foul Flyball: RF | |
| t8 | 1 | --- | O | 1% | 97% | 2-5 | SEA | J. Presley | G. Swindell | Groundout: 3B-1B | |
| t8 | 2 | --- | O | 1% | 97% | 2-5 | SEA | D. Tartabull | G. Swindell | Flyball: SS | |
| 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Mariners 2, Indians 5. | |||||||||||
| Bottom of the 8th, Indians Batting, Ahead 5-2, Mariners' Mark Langston facing 6-7-8 | |||||||||||
| b8 | 0 | --- | O | -0% | 97% | 5-2 | CLE | P. Tabler | M. Langston | Groundout: SS-1B | |
| b8 | 1 | --- | 0% | 97% | 5-2 | CLE | B. Jacoby | M. Langston | Single to LF | ||
| b8 | 1 | 1-- | O | -0% | 97% | 5-2 | CLE | J. Bell | M. Langston | Groundout: 3B-1B; Jacoby to 2B | |
| b8 | 2 | -2- | 0% | 97% | 5-2 | CLE | A. Allanson | M. Langston | Single to SS; Jacoby to 3B | ||
| b8 | 2 | 1-3 | R | 1% | 99% | 5-2 | CLE | O. Nixon | M. Langston | Wild Pitch; Jacoby Scores; Allanson to 2B | |
| b8 | 2 | -2- | O | -0% | 99% | 6-2 | CLE | O. Nixon | M. Langston | Flyball: 1B | |
| 1 run, 2 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Mariners 2, Indians 6. | |||||||||||
| Top of the 9th, Mariners Batting, Behind 2-6, Indians' Greg Swindell facing 5-6-7 | |||||||||||
| t9 | 0 | --- | -2% | 97% | 2-6 | SEA | A. Davis | G. Swindell | Single to CF | ||
| t9 | 0 | 1-- | -4% | 93% | 2-6 | SEA | D. Hengel | G. Swindell | Hit By Pitch; Davis to 2B | ||
| t9 | 0 | 12- | RRR | -9% | 84% | 2-6 | SEA | D. Valle | G. Swindell | Home Run; Davis Scores; Hengel Scores | |
| Ernie Camacho replaces Greg Swindell pitching; Scott Bradley pinch hits for Bob Kearney (C) batting 8th | |||||||||||
| t9 | 0 | --- | O | 7% | 91% | 5-6 | SEA | S. Bradley | E. Camacho | Groundout: 2B-1B | |
| Ken Phelps pinch hits for Harold Reynolds (2B) batting 9th | |||||||||||
| t9 | 1 | --- | O | 5% | 96% | 5-6 | SEA | K. Phelps | E. Camacho | Strikeout | |
| t9 | 2 | --- | O | 4% | 100% | 5-6 | SEA | R. Quinones | E. Camacho | Flyball: CF | |
| 3 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Mariners 5, Indians 6. | |||||||||||
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