Mobile Site You Are Here > Home > Box Scores > 1908 WS > Oct 11, 1908, Tigers at Cubs Box Score and Play by Play

Len Kasper, Cubs play-by-play announcer:I will begin with the best baseball website every created, Baseball-Reference....

View a short video showing advanced box score features / click orange/red text for additional info

Series
Results
CHC
@DET
10
6
DET
@CHC
1
6
DET
@CHC
8
3
CHC
@DET
3
0
CHC
@DET
2
0
Sunday, October 11, 1908,
, West Side Grounds
Attendance: 17,760, Time of Game: 1:30
Tigers
1
at Cubs
6
W: Orval Overall (1-0)
L: Bill Donovan (0-1)
                1  2  3   4  5  6   7  8  9    R  H  E
                -  -  -   -  -  -   -  -  -    -  -  -
Tigers          0  0  0   0  0  0   0  0  1    1  4  1
Cubs            0  0  0   0  0  0   0  6  X    6  7  0
NOTE: All totals are for the entire postseason up to this game.

Detroit Tigers

Batting AB R H RBI BB SO BA OPS WPA aLI WPA+ WPA- RE24 PO A
Matty McIntyre LF 4 0 0 0 0 2 .286 .730 -0.109 1.12 0.000 -0.109 -0.7 3 0
Charley O'Leary SS 3 0 0 0 0 1 .143 .286 -0.060 0.86 0.000 -0.060 -0.4 1 1
   Davy Jones PH 0 1 0 0 1 0 .000 .500 0.002 0.06 0.002 0.000 0.4
Sam Crawford CF 4 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .111 -0.042 0.45 0.000 -0.042 -0.4 4 0
Ty Cobb RF 4 0 1 1 0 0 .375 .750 -0.066 0.74 0.002 -0.069 0.4 1 0
Claude Rossman 1B 4 0 0 0 0 0 .250 .500 -0.070 0.76 0.000 -0.070 -0.9 8 1 GDP
Germany Schaefer 3B 3 0 2 0 0 0 .333 .667 0.066 0.84 0.076 -0.010 0.3 0 1 SB
Boss Schmidt C 3 0 1 0 0 0 .143 .286 -0.034 1.64 0.049 -0.084 -0.1 7 0
Red Downs 2B 2 0 0 0 1 2 .167 .619 -0.071 1.74 0.028 -0.099 -0.4 0 4
Bill Donovan P 2 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 -0.102 1.66 0.000 -0.102 -0.6 0 1 SH
Team Totals 29 1 4 1 2 5 .138 .331 -0.486 1.01 0.157 -0.645 -2.5 24 8
SH: B Donovan (1, off O Overall).
TB: G Schaefer 2; T Cobb; B Schmidt.
GIDP: C Rossman (1).
RBI: T Cobb (2).
Team LOB: 4.
With RISP: 1 for 5.
Fielding
DP: 1. R Downs-C O'Leary-C Rossman.
E: B Donovan (1).
Baserunning
SB: G Schaefer (1, 2nd base off O Overall/J Kling).

Chicago Cubs

Batting AB R H RBI BB SO BA OPS WPA aLI WPA+ WPA- RE24 PO A
Jimmy Sheckard LF 4 1 1 1 0 0 .400 1.000 -0.089 0.79 0.027 -0.116 0.2 3 0 SB,GDP
Johnny Evers 2B 4 1 1 1 0 0 .375 .750 -0.061 0.69 0.012 -0.073 0.5 0 6 SB
Frank Schulte RF 4 1 1 1 0 1 .375 1.000 -0.043 0.47 0.007 -0.050 1.5 1 0 3B
Frank Chance 1B 3 0 0 0 1 1 .143 .476 -0.051 0.43 0.000 -0.051 -0.1 12 0 SB
Harry Steinfeldt 3B 4 0 0 0 0 2 .286 .619 -0.083 0.89 0.000 -0.083 -0.8 1 1
Solly Hofman CF 3 1 1 0 0 1 .286 .661 0.017 0.83 0.045 -0.028 0.0 0 0
Joe Tinker SS 3 1 1 2 0 0 .375 1.125 0.318 1.30 0.354 -0.036 1.5 2 3 HR
Johnny Kling C 3 1 1 0 0 2 .333 .929 -0.037 0.71 0.009 -0.046 0.1 8 0 2B
Orval Overall P 3 0 1 0 0 0 .250 .500 0.043 0.54 0.049 -0.006 0.1 0 2
Team Totals 31 6 7 5 1 7 .226 .669 0.014 0.71 0.503 -0.489 2.9 27 12
2B: J Kling (1, off B Donovan).
3B: F Schulte (1, off B Donovan).
HR: J Tinker (1, off B Donovan; 8th inn, 1 on, 1 out to Deep RF).
TB: J Tinker 4; F Schulte 3; J Kling 2; O Overall; J Sheckard; S Hofman; J Evers.
GIDP: J Sheckard (1).
RBI: J Tinker 2 (4); J Sheckard (1); J Evers (1); F Schulte (2).
2-out RBI: F Schulte; J Sheckard; J Evers.
Team LOB: 2.
With RISP: 3 for 5.
Fielding
DP: 1. J Tinker-F Chance.
Baserunning
SB: J Evers (1, 2nd base off B Donovan/B Schmidt); J Sheckard (1, 2nd base off B Donovan/B Schmidt); F Chance (3, 2nd base off B Donovan/B Schmidt).

Detroit Tigers

Pitching IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BF GSc IR IS WPA aLI RE24
Bill Donovan, L (0-1) 8 7 6 6 1 7 1 6.75 32 50 -0.014 0.71 -2.9
Team Totals 8 7 6 6 1 7 1 6.75 32 50 -0.014 0.71 -2.9

Chicago Cubs

Pitching IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BF GSc IR IS WPA aLI RE24
Orval Overall, W (1-0) 9 4 1 1 2 5 0 1.93 32 78 0.486 1.01 2.5
Team Totals 9 4 1 1 2 5 0 1.00 32 78 0.486 1.01 2.5
Balks: None.
WP: B Donovan (1).
HBP: None.
IBB: None.
Pickoffs: None.

Other Info

Umpires: HP - Bill Klem, 1B - Tommy Connolly.
Time of Game: 1:30.
Attendance: Not Given.
Field Condition: Unknown.
Start Time Weather: Unknown.

Starting Lineups

Win Probability Chart

Explanation of WPA  · Mouse over chart for play descriptions  · See below chart for tools  · Direct Link in URL Bar

Clear Chart
Big Plays
Scoring Plays
Fix Chart in View While Scrolling

Hold mouse over play on chart to see description of play.
Leverage is shown below the chart Low to High.

Top 5 Plays

View Pitches · wWE and wWPA Explanation
Inn Score Out RoB Pit(cnt) R/O @Bat Batter Pitcher wWPA wWE Play Description
b8 0-0 1 1-- RR CHC J. Tinker B. Donovan 35% 95% Home Run (Deep RF); Hofman Scores
b6 0-0 1 1-- OO CHC J. Sheckard B. Donovan -7% 50% Ground Ball Double Play: 2B-SS-1B
t7 0-0 2 -2- O DET B. Schmidt O. Overall 6% 58% Groundout: 2B-1B
t5 0-0 1 12- O DET R. Downs O. Overall 6% 50% Strikeout
t5 0-0 2 12- O DET B. Donovan O. Overall 6% 56% Popfly: 3B

Play By Play

Inn Score Out RoB Pit(cnt) R/O @Bat Batter Pitcher wWPA wWE Play Description
Top of the 1st, Tigers Batting, Tied 0-0, Cubs' Orval Overall facing 1-2-3
t1 0-0 0 --- O DET M. McIntyre O. Overall 2% 52% Lineout: SS
t1 0-0 1 --- O DET C. O'Leary O. Overall 1% 53% Groundout: SS-1B
t1 0-0 2 --- O DET S. Crawford O. Overall 1% 54% Groundout: SS-1B
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Tigers 0, Cubs 0.
Bottom of the 1st, Cubs Batting, Tied 0-0, Tigers' Bill Donovan facing 1-2-3
b1 0-0 0 --- O CHC J. Sheckard B. Donovan -2% 52% Flyball: LF
b1 0-0 1 --- O CHC J. Evers B. Donovan -1% 51% Flyball: CF
b1 0-0 2 --- O CHC F. Schulte B. Donovan -1% 50% Strikeout
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Tigers 0, Cubs 0.
Top of the 2nd, Tigers Batting, Tied 0-0, Cubs' Orval Overall facing 4-5-6
t2 0-0 0 --- O DET T. Cobb O. Overall 2% 52% Foul Flyball: C
t2 0-0 1 --- O DET C. Rossman O. Overall 1% 54% Groundout: 2B-1B
t2 0-0 2 --- O DET G. Schaefer O. Overall 1% 55% Foul Flyball: C
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Tigers 0, Cubs 0.
Bottom of the 2nd, Cubs Batting, Tied 0-0, Tigers' Bill Donovan facing 4-5-6
b2 0-0 0 --- O CHC F. Chance B. Donovan -2% 52% Groundout: 2B-1B
b2 0-0 1 --- O CHC H. Steinfeldt B. Donovan -1% 51% Flyball: CF
b2 0-0 2 --- O CHC S. Hofman B. Donovan -1% 50% Strikeout
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Tigers 0, Cubs 0.
Top of the 3rd, Tigers Batting, Tied 0-0, Cubs' Orval Overall facing 7-8-9
t3 0-0 0 --- O DET B. Schmidt O. Overall 2% 52% Groundout: P-1B
t3 0-0 1 --- DET R. Downs O. Overall -3% 50% Walk
t3 0-0 1 1-- O DET B. Donovan O. Overall 2% 51% Bunt Groundout: 3B-1B/Sacrifice; Downs to 2B
t3 0-0 2 -2- O DET M. McIntyre O. Overall 4% 55% Strikeout
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Tigers 0, Cubs 0.
Bottom of the 3rd, Cubs Batting, Tied 0-0, Tigers' Bill Donovan facing 7-8-9
b3 0-0 0 --- O CHC J. Tinker B. Donovan -2% 53% Groundout: 2B-1B
b3 0-0 1 --- O CHC J. Kling B. Donovan -2% 51% Strikeout
b3 0-0 2 --- CHC O. Overall B. Donovan 1% 52% Reached on E1 (catch) (Ground Ball to 1B); Overall to 1B
b3 0-0 2 1-- O CHC J. Sheckard B. Donovan -2% 50% Flyball: CF
0 runs, 0 hits, 1 error, 1 LOB. Tigers 0, Cubs 0.
Top of the 4th, Tigers Batting, Tied 0-0, Cubs' Orval Overall facing 2-3-4
t4 0-0 0 --- O DET C. O'Leary O. Overall 3% 53% Strikeout
t4 0-0 1 --- O DET S. Crawford O. Overall 2% 54% Flyball: RF
t4 0-0 2 --- O DET T. Cobb O. Overall 1% 55% Groundout: P-1B
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Tigers 0, Cubs 0.
Bottom of the 4th, Cubs Batting, Tied 0-0, Tigers' Bill Donovan facing 2-3-4
b4 0-0 0 --- O CHC J. Evers B. Donovan -2% 53% Popfly: 1B
b4 0-0 1 --- O CHC F. Schulte B. Donovan -2% 51% Flyball: RF
b4 0-0 2 --- O CHC F. Chance B. Donovan -1% 50% Flyball: LF
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Tigers 0, Cubs 0.
Top of the 5th, Tigers Batting, Tied 0-0, Cubs' Orval Overall facing 5-6-7
t5 0-0 0 --- O DET C. Rossman O. Overall 3% 53% Flyball: LF
t5 0-0 1 --- DET G. Schaefer O. Overall -3% 49% Single to CF
t5 0-0 1 1-- DET B. Schmidt O. Overall -5% 45% Single to RF; Schaefer to 2B
t5 0-0 1 12- O DET R. Downs O. Overall 6% 50% Strikeout
t5 0-0 2 12- O DET B. Donovan O. Overall 6% 56% Popfly: 3B
0 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 2 LOB. Tigers 0, Cubs 0.
Bottom of the 5th, Cubs Batting, Tied 0-0, Tigers' Bill Donovan facing 5-6-7
b5 0-0 0 --- O CHC H. Steinfeldt B. Donovan -3% 53% Strikeout
b5 0-0 1 --- O CHC S. Hofman B. Donovan -2% 51% Groundout: 3B-1B
b5 0-0 2 --- O CHC J. Tinker B. Donovan -1% 50% Flyball: CF
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Tigers 0, Cubs 0.
Top of the 6th, Tigers Batting, Tied 0-0, Cubs' Orval Overall facing 1-2-3
t6 0-0 0 --- O DET M. McIntyre O. Overall 3% 53% Strikeout
t6 0-0 1 --- O DET C. O'Leary O. Overall 2% 55% Groundout: 2B-1B
t6 0-0 2 --- O DET S. Crawford O. Overall 1% 57% Groundout: 2B-1B
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Tigers 0, Cubs 0.
Bottom of the 6th, Cubs Batting, Tied 0-0, Tigers' Bill Donovan facing 8-9-1
b6 0-0 0 --- O CHC J. Kling B. Donovan -3% 54% Strikeout
b6 0-0 1 --- CHC O. Overall B. Donovan 4% 57% Single to CF
b6 0-0 1 1-- OO CHC J. Sheckard B. Donovan -7% 50% Ground Ball Double Play: 2B-SS-1B
0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Tigers 0, Cubs 0.
Top of the 7th, Tigers Batting, Tied 0-0, Cubs' Orval Overall facing 4-5-6
t7 0-0 0 --- O DET T. Cobb O. Overall 4% 54% Flyball: LF
t7 0-0 1 --- O DET C. Rossman O. Overall 2% 56% Flyball: LF
t7 0-0 2 --- DET G. Schaefer O. Overall -2% 54% Single/Bunt
t7 0-0 2 1-- DET B. Schmidt O. Overall -2% 52% Schaefer Steals 2B
t7 0-0 2 -2- O DET B. Schmidt O. Overall 6% 58% Groundout: 2B-1B
0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Tigers 0, Cubs 0.
Bottom of the 7th, Cubs Batting, Tied 0-0, Tigers' Bill Donovan facing 2-3-4
b7 0-0 0 --- O CHC J. Evers B. Donovan -3% 54% Groundout: 2B-1B
b7 0-0 1 --- O CHC F. Schulte B. Donovan -2% 52% Groundout: 1B unassisted
b7 0-0 2 --- O CHC F. Chance B. Donovan -2% 50% Strikeout
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Tigers 0, Cubs 0.
Top of the 8th, Tigers Batting, Tied 0-0, Cubs' Orval Overall facing 8-9-1
t8 0-0 0 --- O DET R. Downs O. Overall 4% 54% Strikeout
t8 0-0 1 --- O DET B. Donovan O. Overall 3% 57% Popfly: C
t8 0-0 2 --- O DET M. McIntyre O. Overall 2% 59% Groundout: 2B-1B
0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Tigers 0, Cubs 0.
Bottom of the 8th, Cubs Batting, Tied 0-0, Tigers' Bill Donovan facing 5-6-7
b8 0-0 0 --- O CHC H. Steinfeldt B. Donovan -4% 55% Strikeout
b8 0-0 1 --- CHC S. Hofman B. Donovan 5% 60% Single
b8 0-0 1 1-- RR CHC J. Tinker B. Donovan 35% 95% Home Run (Deep RF); Hofman Scores
b8 2-0 1 --- CHC J. Kling B. Donovan 1% 96% Ground-rule Double (Deep LF)
b8 2-0 1 -2- O CHC O. Overall B. Donovan -1% 95% Groundout: P-1B; Kling to 3B
b8 2-0 2 --3 R CHC J. Sheckard B. Donovan 3% 98% Single to CF; Kling Scores
b8 3-0 2 1-- CHC J. Evers B. Donovan 0% 98% Sheckard Steals 2B
b8 3-0 2 -2- R CHC J. Evers B. Donovan 1% 99% Single; Sheckard Scores
b8 4-0 2 1-- CHC F. Schulte B. Donovan 0% 99% Evers Steals 2B
b8 4-0 2 -2- R CHC F. Schulte B. Donovan 1% 100% Triple (LF-CF); Evers Scores
b8 5-0 2 --3 R CHC F. Chance B. Donovan 0% 100% Wild Pitch; Schulte Scores
b8 6-0 2 --- CHC F. Chance B. Donovan 0% 100% Walk
b8 6-0 2 1-- CHC H. Steinfeldt B. Donovan 0% 100% Chance Steals 2B
b8 6-0 2 -2- O CHC H. Steinfeldt B. Donovan -0% 100% Flyball: LF
6 runs, 6 hits, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Tigers 0, Cubs 6.
Top of the 9th, Tigers Batting, Behind 0-6, Cubs' Orval Overall facing 2-3-4
Davy Jones pinch hits for Charley O'Leary (SS) batting 2nd
t9 0-6 0 --- DET D. Jones O. Overall -0% 100% Walk
t9 0-6 0 1-- O DET S. Crawford O. Overall 0% 100% Groundout: 2B-1B; Jones to 2B
t9 0-6 1 -2- R DET T. Cobb O. Overall -0% 100% Single to CF; Jones Scores
t9 1-6 1 1-- OO DET C. Rossman O. Overall 0% 100% Ground Ball Double Play: SS-1B
1 run, 1 hit, 0 errors, 0 LOB. Tigers 1, Cubs 6.

Retrosheet.org Boxscore:CHN190810110
BackToBaseball.com Game Playback

  • Score- The score from the perspective of the batting team.
  • RoB- This gives the baserunner (Runners on Base) configuration at the start of the play. "1-3" would mean runners on first and third. Clicking on this will show the defensive players and baserunners on the field for this play.
  • Pit- When available, the number of pitches in this plate appearance. Clicking on this number will show the sequence of pitches thrown including, when available, things like runner going, ball blocked, attempted pickoffs and the like. We believe this data to be as accurate as humanly possible, but there are going to be some errors in the data, so please take it with a grain of salt. Clicking on this will show the defensive players and baserunners on the field for this play.
  • R/O- This has a "O" for every out on the play and an "R" for every run that scored on the play. Some plays will have both in no particular order.
  • Batter- The batter at the plate when this play occurred. If the play is a baserunning event, then the batter's name will be repeated as indicated by quotes.
  • Pitcher- The pitcher on the mound when this play occurred.
  • wWPA- Winning Team's Win Probability Added. The amount that this play increased or decreased the eventual winning team's probability of winning the game. More About Win Probability Added
  • wWE- Winning Team's Win Expectancy. The probability of the eventual winning team winning the game prior to this play given two average teams playing each other. More About Win Probability Added
  • Play Detail- This is an explanation of the play that occurred. In some cases, batted ball location and type will be indicated within parentheses. Again, these are best efforts to the record the game as it happened. Also, plays made on the baserunners (including the batter as a baserunner) will be indicated in parentheses after the baserunner's name. Advancement of baserunners is given in cases where the advancement is not easily deduced or obvious from the play. For example, advancement for a walk will not be given, but for a single or double it will be given.

Please report any issues or strangeness you see with the description of plays given above. We have tested several hundred different types of plays, but, in all likelihood, there are still some errors or misinterpretations of the play-by-play data.

The play-by-play information both shown and used to create certain data sets was obtained free of charge from and is copyrighted by RetroSheet.

In some cases, the results from play-by-play data will contradict results in the official record. The official record has many, many errors, but we have not undertaken to reconcile those errors. Pitch-by-pitch data should not be taken as completely accurate, though we believe it to be as accurate as is currently possible.

Box scores and play-by-play outputs produced by Sports Reference LLC. All Rights Reserved.