Comments on: Most Seasons (Non-P) PA http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9926 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9926/comment-page-1#comment-93915 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:41:42 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9926#comment-93915 Re: Bob O'Farrell as 1926 NL MVP (@18):

Not only was it a weak year for NL stars, it was a weird MVP vote.

-- The top 3 position players in the MVP vote hit 12 HRs combined, 7 of them by O'Farrell.

-- Twenty-four different players got MVP votes, but Cards' 1B Sunny Jim Bottomley -- who led the league with 120 RBI and 305 Total Bases -- didn't get any. (The baseball fates made it up to Bottomley with the 1928 MVP and a ridiculous HOF election by the Veterans Committee in 1974 -- 12 years after he dropped off the BBWAA ballot without ever collecting more than 33% of the vote.)

-- After O'Farrell, the next-highest Cardinal was SS Tommy Thevenow, who placed 4th. Perhaps Thevenow was a gifted fielder, but he was an awful hitter, both in 1926 (59 OPS+) and throughout his career (51 OPS+). Among hitters with at least 3,000 PAs, only Bill Bergen and Hal Lanier had career OPS+ marks below Thevenow's.

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By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9926/comment-page-1#comment-93907 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:53:39 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9926#comment-93907 On the Lou Klimchock tangent:

It's a pity that he made about half his game appearances as a pinch-hitter, since he was presumably one of the worst pinch-hitters who ever served much time in that role. His PH line:
-- .131 BA (21 for 160), 1 HR, 2 doubles, .162 OBP, .163 SLG.

Meanwhile, he was a decent hitter when he got the chance to start:
-- 138 games, .258 BA, 12 HRs in 519 PAs.

Klimchock struck out more as a pinch-hitter (36 Ks in 167 PAs) than he did as a starter (35 Ks in 519 PAs).

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By: Indy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9926/comment-page-1#comment-93691 Sun, 13 Feb 2011 22:11:52 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9926#comment-93691 Bob O'Farrell won the NL MVP in 1926. He was the backstop for the Cards when they reached the post season for the first time since 1888. It was a fairly weak year for NL stars, though. The only HOFer types in the top ten in voting that season were Hack Wilson (fourth) and Freddie Lindstrom (ninth). Contrast that with the AL- after winner George Burns and number two Johnny Mostil, #s 3-11 are guys named Herb Pennock, Sam Rice, Harry Heilman, Heinie Manush, Al Simmons, Lefty Grove, Goose Goslin, Lou Gehrig, and Tony Lazzeri.

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By: DoubleDiamond http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9926/comment-page-1#comment-93681 Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:56:03 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9926#comment-93681 Also, when I saw the name Kevin Brown in that #2 spot, my first thought was that this was supposed to be for non-pitchers! Well, that's one more name for my list of players with the same name who were active at or around the same time.

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By: DoubleDiamond http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9926/comment-page-1#comment-93680 Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:54:53 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9926#comment-93680 @12 - I see a World Series MVP - Dempsey. But unless it was a long-ago player, I don't recognize any regular season MVPs. (I did check Hall-of-Famer Jennings, but he never won the MVP, which appears to have debuted in 1911 but was not given out regularly in both leagues until 1931.)

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By: Mike Gaber http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9926/comment-page-1#comment-93679 Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:46:14 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9926#comment-93679 @ 14 You are correct. Herb Washington had a lot of speed but had little experience playing baseball, and didn't really have any base running smarts.
Basically he was one of Charlie Finley's experiments.

I remember in the 1974 World Series when they put him in as a Pinch Runner in Game 2 at Dodger Stadium. Dodgers vs A's.
1 out in the top of 9th. Herb Washington pinch runs for Joe Rudi
Mike Marshall was on the mound.

The TV announcer in the game was Vin Scully, who ordinarily would never make a prediction, but noted immediately that Mike Marshall would pick him off.

2 seconds later Marshall did pick him off, and then struck out the last batter, pinch hitter Angel Mangual, for a 3-2 Dodger win.

The Dodgers eventually lost the series 4 game to 1.

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By: Tom http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9926/comment-page-1#comment-93654 Sun, 13 Feb 2011 19:11:01 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9926#comment-93654 @10

Although stolen bases isn't the be-all-end-all of good baserunning, it is somewhat amusing that his stolen base percentage was pedestrian; especially considering he tried to steal almost half of the times he was on base.

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By: TheGoof http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9926/comment-page-1#comment-93646 Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:10:07 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9926#comment-93646 This query makes me think of Dennis Lewallyn, a pitcher who played in eight straight seasons, but never reached double digits in games or 20 innings in any of his seasons.

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By: Indy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9926/comment-page-1#comment-93600 Sun, 13 Feb 2011 12:19:51 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9926#comment-93600 Quite cool to see that one of the eternal-cup-of-coffee players managed to win an MVP.

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By: Gerry http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9926/comment-page-1#comment-93595 Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:39:15 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9926#comment-93595 If you raise the bar to PA at most 60, you find Charlie Silvera had 8 such seasons. He and Houk were teammates and back-ups to Yogi Berra.

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