Comments on: At least 3 times as many homers as doubles in a season http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9802 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Open Thread: So, What’s On Your Mind? | Ducksnorts http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9802/comment-page-1#comment-89261 Fri, 04 Feb 2011 08:40:45 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9802#comment-89261 [...] Castilla, Dave Kingman, Jose Valentin, and Joe Carter make appearances. Kingman also pops up on this list of awesome. Of course, when Kong pops up, it’s usually a [...]

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By: mccombe35 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9802/comment-page-1#comment-87101 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 01:54:22 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9802#comment-87101 The Thomas seasons are interesting. Heading into the '05 season he had more career 2Bs than HRs (444 to 436). Then came that horrible foot injury - that actually cut short his '04 season during a "Thomas-Esque" season with a 156+ OPS in 74 games.

'05 - '06 he had 14 2Bs & 51 HRs. His only way to get around the bases was the HR trot....

51 HRs & just 96 runs over 2 seasons.

From a guy that in his prime was among the top 10 in runs 7 times & doubles 3 times. And leading the league 1 time each.

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By: Phil Haberkorn in Indiana http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9802/comment-page-1#comment-86981 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 22:47:26 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9802#comment-86981 RE: posts 15 and 17, I was struck by an oddity when I started searching these guys' stats for triples.
McGwire and Sosa, hardly any triples.
Aaron, Murphy, Kingman, even Killebrew and Campanella, a healthy dose of triples depending on their speed capabilities.
What you are looking at is a list comparing the "old fashioned" guys who played for the team, and ran the bases while the ball was in flight - sometimes caroming off the wall instead of going over it - versus the "modern era" guys who play only for themselves and everything they can get in their next contract, standing in the batter's box or slowly trotting toward first while they watch their towering shots head toward the outfield wall, and then bounce off it for a single or double.
I watch home run balls these days that remind me of Dave Kingman's high-altitude shots, but I look down and I don't see any of these guys reminding me of the way - despite his bad reputation - Dave Kingman legged out his hits for everything he could get on the scoreboard. Dave Kingman for the HOF? No. But at least he respected the game and knew well enough to save the home run trot until AFTER the ball went over the wall.
This is a list of guys who take their millions for granted, versus guys who took nothing for granted. Just compare their triples. You have to hustle to get those.

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By: Whiz http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9802/comment-page-1#comment-86830 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 19:03:16 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9802#comment-86830 @23, Jim

Yes it certainly was. Other related oddities about McGwire's 2001 season:

1) Of players with more HR than other hits combined (HR > 0.5*H) in a season, he had by far the most HR, 29 (Frank Thomas had 12 HR and 23 H in 2005).

2) It was the highest OPS+ (105) with a BA below .190 (175 PA min).

3) It was also the highest OPS/BA ratio, 4.32 (125 PA min).

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By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9802/comment-page-1#comment-86816 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:31:41 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9802#comment-86816 @8, Jon: "You have to be a real plodder to hit 13 doubles (39 HR) or fewer in a season."

Plodding certainly helps one make this list -- but Mickey Mantle, Sammy Sosa and Dale Murphy still had good speed in the seasons shown above.

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By: Jim Dunne http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9802/comment-page-1#comment-86809 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:18:50 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9802#comment-86809 Mark McGwire's 2001 was one of the strangest statistical seasons I can remember. Not only did he have only 4 doubles to go with those 29 homers, he also had only 23 singles. Swing hard in case you hit it, indeed.

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By: Lawrence Azrin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9802/comment-page-1#comment-86744 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:29:54 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9802#comment-86744 #14/... Depstein Says: "I don't understand how the 1961 Yankees won the WS when their #3 and #4 hitters only combined for 32 doubles. What a couple of losers."

Depstein, the Yankees hit only 194 doubles in 1961, which was last in the AL that year. How in the world did they win 110 games and the WS? Well, 240 HR's and Mickey Mantle, Whitey Ford and Roger Maris at their peak helps a lot.

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By: Kahuna Tuna http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9802/comment-page-1#comment-86668 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:36:27 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9802#comment-86668 OPS+ 100 or less, RBI 60 or more, and OPS+ = RBI:

99 RBI with 99 OPS+: Dave Kingman, 1982
95 RBI with 95 OPS+: Dale Sveum, 1987; Del Ennis, 1956
94 RBI with 94 OPS+: Joe Vosmik, 1936
92 RBI with 92 OPS+: Garret Anderson, 1997
87 RBI with 87 OPS+: Tony Batista, 2001
85 RBI with 85 OPS+: Roy Smalley Sr., 1950
84 RBI with 84 OPS+: Jose Guillen, 1998
83 RBI with 83 OPS+: Gary Carter, 1987
82 RBI with 82 OPS+: Pedro Feliz, 2009
79 RBI with 79 OPS+: Alex Gonzalez, 2004; George Stovall, 1911
78 RBI with 78 OPS+: Gary Ward, 1987
71 RBI with 71 OPS+: Rod Barajas, 2009
70 RBI with 70 OPS+: Manny Trillo, 1975
66 RBI with 66 OPS+: Derek Bell, 1999
62 RBI with 62 OPS+: Everett Scott, 1921
61 RBI with 61 OPS+: Doug Flynn, 1979

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By: Michael E Sullivan http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9802/comment-page-1#comment-86638 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:39:43 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9802#comment-86638 The season that really jumps out at me on this list is Kingman's 1982. Not only was it not particularly sublime, it was actually below average offense due to his horrible BA/OBP, despite leading the league in HRs that year.

It's hard to believe that's happened often.

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By: jason http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9802/comment-page-1#comment-86399 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 04:47:33 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9802#comment-86399 surprised at how many HOF are on here as opposed to the rob deer types.

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