Comments on: Bloops: Gil Meche Retires Rather Than Being Paid Money He “Didn’t Earn” http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9789 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Jeff Wise http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9789/comment-page-1#comment-87641 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 16:18:15 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9789#comment-87641 You guys are right. Class act. I really enjoyed seeing him pitch for the Mariners. Wow! Choosing family over big money is awesome to see.

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By: Gerry http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9789/comment-page-1#comment-87005 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 23:17:01 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9789#comment-87005 #19, you raise some good points. I wonder if Meche could have said something like this to the Royals: "You've agreed to pay me $12 million. I'm worth $0 million. Let's split the difference: you donate $6 million to the Red Cross in my honor, and I retire. Or: you pay me $6 million, on the understanding that I'm not going to undergo surgery or pitch for you, and I undertake to donate all/most/much of the money to Oxfam."

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By: Furryback http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9789/comment-page-1#comment-86965 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 22:28:26 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9789#comment-86965 Wasn't the achy shoulder a risk that was borne by KC when they signed Meche? Did somebody twist KC's arm? Didn't KC buy an insurance contract from Lloyd's? If Meche had won 25 games in each year of his contract, would KC have volunteered to double his salary?

The NYT article mentions an ex-wife, 3 children in two cities, and he lives in a third place. He has no business giving this money back! And, as somebody mentioned before, there are better causes than the KC Royals. If you feel guilty about your money, why not donate it?

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By: Martin M Solomon http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9789/comment-page-1#comment-86865 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:05:28 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9789#comment-86865 Meche has an ex-wife in Arizona. It might affect the ethical analysis to learn how this decision affect payments, if at all, Meche is required to make to his ex-wife?

Related point: If it gives her less money, did Meche discuss with her?

Re # 17, not exactly a donation to owner. Could Meche have conditioned decision on payments by Royals of a portion for good causes? But the only way Meche would have been able to donate the money at issue here is if he pitched. Is it reasonable to expect Meche to pitch through pain and below his standard to make a large donation?

Also reasonable for some people to donate $12 million from money earned before, but that requires information on Meche's net worth that we do not have.

Martin M. Solomon
Delray Beach, FL

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By: Tmckelv http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9789/comment-page-1#comment-86794 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:53:07 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9789#comment-86794 @10,

"dumbass"? Really? I will assume you are referring to Meche (although that obviously is up for debate), and not another poster on this blog.

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By: Gerry http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9789/comment-page-1#comment-86292 Sun, 30 Jan 2011 23:13:13 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9789#comment-86292 I'm sorry, #10, but with all due respect to the poverty-stricken Royals, I'd be more impressed if Meche gave the money to, say, cancer research, or Haitian earthquake relief.

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By: Dvd Avins http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9789/comment-page-1#comment-85740 Sun, 30 Jan 2011 01:10:54 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9789#comment-85740 A contract being perfectly fair is about as likely as a tied election. 99+% of the time, somebody's going to come out the winner. If he had turned into Greg Maddux, the Royals wouldn't owe him one cent more than the contract called for. With him being unable to perform, they didn't owe him one cent less.

I appreciate giving up money for principle. I switched careers to oen where I'm making a third as much as I used to because I wanted a better reason to get up in the morning. But giving away money to David Glass is not something I'd do.

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By: td88 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9789/comment-page-1#comment-85733 Sun, 30 Jan 2011 00:13:14 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9789#comment-85733 I figured the players union would never allow him to give money back he didnt earn. Very Classy

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By: barkfart http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9789/comment-page-1#comment-85732 Sat, 29 Jan 2011 23:35:53 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9789#comment-85732 Gil Meche, Jamey Moyer, Bert Blyleven... same thing

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By: barkie http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9789/comment-page-1#comment-85731 Sat, 29 Jan 2011 23:20:22 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9789#comment-85731 Drew Henson, he of the "am I a Yankee, am I a Cowboy".

Asks the Yanks to be let out of his contract and leaves- if I'm not mistaken- $11 million on the table. Never even asked the Yanks to negotiate.

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