Comments on: Et tu, U2? http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9779 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Tmckelv http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9779/comment-page-1#comment-86665 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:31:30 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9779#comment-86665 JT @38,

Many times the MVP voting is just as much of "joke" as some of the Grammy decisions. Should we question why any serious baseball fan would pay attention to it?

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By: Big Kahuna http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9779/comment-page-1#comment-85742 Sun, 30 Jan 2011 02:03:50 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9779#comment-85742 To Pete @16:

Sadly, Fort Lauderdale Stadium will be turned into a water park soon. Apparently, demolition of that historic venue may coincide with U2's visit to South Florida.

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By: Johnny Twisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9779/comment-page-1#comment-85578 Fri, 28 Jan 2011 22:38:05 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9779#comment-85578 The Grammies have always been a joke. Why would any serious music fan pay attention to them? They will hardly ever recognize any progressive music. The great artists they do honor are always 20-30 years late. Awards for art are a questionable enterprise anyway.

"I never let a statue tell me how nice I am" -- Phife Dawg
"Who gives a f--- about a goddamn Grammy?" -- Flavor Flav

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By: Tmckelv http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9779/comment-page-1#comment-85570 Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:33:18 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9779#comment-85570 Lawrence @36,

You are correct about the voters of Grammys. I shouldn't hold it against U2. But I CAN hold against them that they allowed the "Vertigo" song to be used in that IPOD commercial that played insessantly and perhaps influenced the weaker-minded Grammy voters. So U2 probably contributed to the problematic end result more than Andre Dawson ever "intentionally" did.

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By: Lawrence Azrin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9779/comment-page-1#comment-85565 Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:55:35 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9779#comment-85565 #35/ Tmckelv Says: "The only real problem I have with U2 is their Grammy wins for Best Rock Performance (by a Group) in 2005 and 2006 over Green Day and The Killers..."

In the same way that some people here hold it against Andre Dawson that he won an MVP award that (they think that) he didn't deserve in 1987, I wouldn't hold it against U2 that they won Grammys in 2005/06 that you think they didn't deserve.

This reflects more on the voters than the recipients of the award.

One area that I would give U2 major major credit for is that they're been at or near the top of an incredibly competitive biz for a quarter of a century - long-time success on their level in the music business is nearly unprecedented.

This not to say I think they're the greatest - I liked them a lot through the early nineties, but have been neutral towards them since then.

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By: Tmckelv http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9779/comment-page-1#comment-85561 Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:39:58 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9779#comment-85561 The only real problem I have with U2 is their Grammy wins for Best Rock Performance (by a Group) in 2005 and 2006 over Green Day and The Killers.

ESPECIALLY "Vertigo" over "American Idiot" in 2005. That was ridiculous.

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By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9779/comment-page-1#comment-85560 Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:35:21 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9779#comment-85560 The thing about U2 that I have always loved was how they never hesitated to change things up. Joshua Tree was a fairly standard rock album (although also a very good one) which they then followed with Rattle & Hum, which had a lot of non-standard rock songs.
I will never forget the first time I heard Achtung Baby, which was just so weird. Mysterious Ways was SUCH a weird song--The Fly, Even Better than the Real Thing, even One was a very unusual ballad. Now those songs are like the foundation of rock that came after them--it really changed the landscape of modern music. I cannot emphasize how different and weird EVERYBODY thought that album was when it first came out. And now it almost sounds dull, although still a fantastic album.
Since then, each album they've come out with has been a deliberate attempt to change up from their own past. Some have been more successful, and some less so, but they never bring out the same old crap. They are always trying to do something new.

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By: Tmckelv http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9779/comment-page-1#comment-85557 Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:21:16 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9779#comment-85557 U2 was REALLY good until "Joshua Tree", but that was when they got REALLY popular. They were kind of hit and miss through the 1990's.

But "All That You Can't Leave Behind" is one of the best albums by any group in their 20th+ year. "Beautiful Day" is one of the best Songs of the 2000's.

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By: Dave Huemer http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9779/comment-page-1#comment-85527 Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:22:11 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9779#comment-85527 @30 Like too many Met infields, the Beatles had only two guys who could play bass.

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By: Lawrence Azrin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9779/comment-page-1#comment-85519 Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:41:22 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9779#comment-85519 #26/Jeff J. - and BOY, did they get off to a great early start - though their WAR in the past decade-plus has been barely above replacement level...

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