Comments on: Best SP Since 2005 According To ERA+ http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9455 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Uncle Mike’s Friday BROWSing: The “We Got an Erection! (And Other Wood-Related Puns)” Edition | Hire Jim Essian http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9455/comment-page-1#comment-78133 Fri, 17 Dec 2010 15:39:03 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9455#comment-78133 [...] Read it and weep, you Zambrano-hating retards. [...]

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By: Phillies Now a Pitching-First Kind of Team « Phour Score http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9455/comment-page-1#comment-77190 Sun, 12 Dec 2010 18:38:01 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9455#comment-77190 [...] recently published a table displaying the best pitchers in terms of ERA+ since 2005 with at least 1,000 innings [...]

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By: Wade K. http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9455/comment-page-1#comment-77165 Sun, 12 Dec 2010 15:03:12 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9455#comment-77165 The conclusion I draw from this is that the "demise" of Carlos Zambrano has been vastly overexaggerated. One of the most ridiculous comments regarding this was by his own general manager, Hendry, in June of this past season: "He hasn't been up to the standards that he was at before for two years," Hendry said. "If you look at his last 50 starts, he probably ranks in the bottom third in the National League of overall performance. I'm not saying that critically. It's not something I'm tying in with today, but that's part of the decision that was criticized at the time, like we were taking our ace out of the rotation."

Incorrect, Jim. Though it was one of the worse stretches of his career, it was much like the rest of Zambrano's time with the Cubs: Jekyll and Hyde, great months and abyssmal ones. Any team would love to trot out a starter who is nearly 20% better than league average in allowing runs (which is the name of the game) every fifth day. Or every game, period. I am neither a Cubs fan nor a Zambrano fan. His act gets old for me too. But the guy cares, and he's one of the rare pitchers who actually tries in the non-pitching facets of the game while also excelling at the pitching.

Is Josh Beckett overrated or what? Goodness, I had no idea he was so far off being an elite pitcher. I guess we all expected big things after his dominance vs. the Yankees in the 03 World Series, and ace-level 07 season, but he's just never gotten there, and probably never will. Must be nice to have that 16+ million a year extension starting this season, though. Will the Red Sox get their money's worth out of that?

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By: shoewizard http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9455/comment-page-1#comment-77162 Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:09:27 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9455#comment-77162 I miss Brandon Webb. Even after missing all of the last two seasons he just misses the IP cutoff , (He has 931 between 2005-2010), He had a 142 ERA+ during that time.

If you drop the IP to 900 he comes in 4th behind Halladay, Santana, & Carpenter.

2003-2010, minimu 1000 IP Webb is 3rd behind Halladay and Santana, (Still 142)

Sure hope he can make a comeback. He was a lot of fun to watch.

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By: The Been Stew http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9455/comment-page-1#comment-77132 Sun, 12 Dec 2010 06:33:17 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9455#comment-77132 [...] of you who didn’t see it, the folks over at baseball-reference.com put together a list of the top starting pitchers since 2005, according to ERA+ (an ERA figure that is adjusted to the pitcher’s ballpark, with 100 being [...]

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By: Johnny Twisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9455/comment-page-1#comment-77126 Sun, 12 Dec 2010 05:24:05 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9455#comment-77126 Here's what I did: Steve's list looks for guys with an average of at least 166.2 IP over the past 6 seasons. I found there had been 207 pitchers who reached 166.2 IP in any season 2005-2010. I tried to find an equivalent for batters, and there were 207 batters who reached 608 PA in any season 2005-2010. So I then searched for all players with at least 3648 PA (6 * 608) from 2005-2010. Here's the list: http://bbref.com/pi/shareit/y2voe

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By: Zachary http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9455/comment-page-1#comment-77120 Sun, 12 Dec 2010 04:21:07 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9455#comment-77120 This just goes to show you how rare it is for good, sustained pitching success. Less than 1 pitcher per team cranking out even an average ERA+ over 6 years.

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By: dukeofflatbush http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9455/comment-page-1#comment-77103 Sun, 12 Dec 2010 00:15:13 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9455#comment-77103 @ Mike E and others,

I concur. I don't think the '95-00 model is tantamount to proof of the liabilities to long term deals today. I only wanted to offer another illustration, that in my mind was comparable to the one before. I thought, pitching has changed so much decade to decade, that only a 5-15 year difference would be worth talking about. So I chose '95-double-aughts. I know it can't predict coming events, but to look in the past for similar trends, does more for prediction, than individual performance.
Do the Yankees regret the AJ signing...
I'm certain.
Do they think every penny was worth CC.
I'm certain.
So, how do you select the initial initially....?
I don't think there is a barometer.
While I hope CP (Cliff Lee) enjoys success, I know the blue print of a Kevin Brown, or a Mike Hampton, or a Oliver Perez loom as large as a HOFer.

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By: Chuck http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9455/comment-page-1#comment-77102 Sat, 11 Dec 2010 23:51:38 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9455#comment-77102 Make that turning 42 and cranking out six seasons. No matter. Still impressive.

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By: Chuck http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9455/comment-page-1#comment-77101 Sat, 11 Dec 2010 23:48:16 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9455#comment-77101 Kudos to Jamie Moyer for turning 43 and then cranking out five seasons in which he was one of the 30 best starting pitchers in baseball, at least according to this rating.

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