Comments on: A Poem on the Flaws of Fielding Percentage http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9447 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Tom C http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9447/comment-page-1#comment-77423 Tue, 14 Dec 2010 01:53:05 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9447#comment-77423 The Hoosier in me recognizes a clever parody of "When The Frost Is On The Pumpkin" by the immortal James Whitcomb Riley.

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By: Lee Panas http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9447/comment-page-1#comment-77172 Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:26:38 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9447#comment-77172 Great find Neil!

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By: Cabriael http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9447/comment-page-1#comment-77130 Sun, 12 Dec 2010 06:18:41 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9447#comment-77130 Why nobody wants to write a poem on the Flaws of Umpiring Percentage? Umpires are now the greatest scourage of major league, and they have a good 20% chance of mistakes.

I don't think they are worth writing a poem about (they deserve expletives, not poems), but some of the umpire kiss-assers frequenting this blog could write a great poem rebuting my opinion.

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By: Sean http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9447/comment-page-1#comment-77121 Sun, 12 Dec 2010 04:24:15 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9447#comment-77121 I smile when I'm watching the Yanks and there's a grounder hit to the SS side of 2B---------and Jeter doesn't even make it into the picture... I mean... WHERE IS HE!? It's almost like he runs to his RIGHT on contact or something.

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By: Frank Clingenpeel http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9447/comment-page-1#comment-77106 Sun, 12 Dec 2010 01:11:35 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9447#comment-77106 I just got word -- my library is selling off their Shakespeare collection in anticipation of Neil Paine's first offerings.

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By: Will S http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9447/comment-page-1#comment-76989 Sat, 11 Dec 2010 04:56:03 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9447#comment-76989 @11

How can you mention a fielder being out of control due to momentum in terms of fielding the ball, then disregard that momentum when you say there is no excuse for a bad throw? A fielder won't have as much time to set his feet on balls near the edge of his range.

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By: Tmckelv http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9447/comment-page-1#comment-76920 Fri, 10 Dec 2010 19:39:54 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9447#comment-76920 @8,

Jeter is not "letting it go by", he just cannot get to the ball.

It is easier for a guy with limited range (Jeter) to make the play on the ball he gets to because his lack of momentum at the time he fields it. Wheras someone like Pennington (more quickness) may bobble some more because he might be in postion to field, but a little out of control due to his momentum. It is not because he tried to make a great diving play and the ball went off his glove. I don't know the breakdown of errors, but it is possible someone with many errors makes more throws that he shouldn't (bad throws are no excuse, no matter your range, that is when you start to give away bases).

I have been watching baseball a long time and I know that tough chances (where someone has to dive) are NOT errors, unless the official scorer is particularly strict. You make it sound like anything someone gets a glove on is automatically an error...not true.

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By: Kahuna Tuna http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9447/comment-page-1#comment-76919 Fri, 10 Dec 2010 19:12:43 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9447#comment-76919 “[Donie] Bush’s career [as a manager] was during an era of rapidly increasing double plays. An average team when Bush broke in would turn about 85 double plays a season. By 1930, the average was over 150 per season. Bush apparently never adjusted; he continued to think about ‘being sure you get one,’ which was the prevailing idea at the beginning of his career. It cost him dearly, because in modern baseball you can’t win if you can’t turn two.” NBJHBA, p. 623.

In the war-shortened 1918 season, Bush played short in every one of the Tigers' 128 games, and was involved in 29 double plays. What, did someone whisper to him that DPs hurt America's war effort?

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By: jiffy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9447/comment-page-1#comment-76909 Fri, 10 Dec 2010 18:04:50 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9447#comment-76909 Re #8, see also Starlin Castro, who made some horrible plays in the field but also some great ones, and also was learning how to play the position on-the-fly:

DJ: 1303.2 Innings, 182 PO, 365 A, 100 DP, 6 E, .989 FPct
CP: 1304.2 Innings, 218 PO, 496 A, 94 DP, 25 E, .966 FPct
SC: 1073.2 Innings, 183 PO, 334 A, 74 DP, 27 E, .950 FPct

I think I'll take the guy who is 16 years younger. As far as the lower DP for the Cubs, that's probably partially due to Theriot (SS)/DeWitt (3B) playing 2B rather than Robbie Cano.

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By: DavidRF http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9447/comment-page-1#comment-76903 Fri, 10 Dec 2010 17:43:15 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9447#comment-76903 @4
If you let the ball go, its a hit. If you try and boot it, its an error.

The extreme example this year is Derek Jeter and Cliff Pennington:

DJ: 1303.2 Innings, 182 PO, 365 A, 100 DP, 6 E, .989 FPct
CP: 1304.2 Innings, 218 PO, 496 A, 94 DP, 25 E, .966 FPct

I know there are caveats to this. Oppurtunities don't always match up due to strikeout and groundball rates and stuff like that. Still, that's a lot of extra outs generated by Pennington in extra for "just" 19 extra errors.

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