Comments on: Who deserves to win the AL MVP? http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9194 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9194/comment-page-1#comment-74049 Sat, 27 Nov 2010 01:30:07 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9194#comment-74049 @85, Fritz -- In response to a post of mine (I believe), you asked: "why would it have been so outlandish for Mike to have read about which ballots came from which cities? It's not like it's a secret ballot."

You're right, but that was not my point. It seemed to me from Mike's wording that he was predicting who voted for whom ("we can be pretty sure that..."). I don't know if Mike had seen the vote breakdown or not; by now, of course, we know that he was right.

I'm not going to say anything else to defend my post, because I was wrong and I've apologized to Mike. I just wanted to respond to your question.

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By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9194/comment-page-1#comment-74045 Sat, 27 Nov 2010 01:19:03 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9194#comment-74045 @81, MikeD -- I apologize. Everything you said there is right, and I'm sorry. Mine was a dumb, knee-jerk post ... and to top it all off, you were 100% right about the MVP voters from Toronto, Detroit and Texas. Bad day all around for me.

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By: MikeD http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9194/comment-page-1#comment-73674 Wed, 24 Nov 2010 17:36:37 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9194#comment-73674 Thanks, Johnny Twisto @89. I didn't see the Cy Young ballots, although I did see if for the MVP.

Andy, here's the link for yesterday's MVP voting. Same thing. Scroll to the bottom and you'll see which reporters/city voted for which candidate.

http://bbwaa.com/2010/11/2010-al-mvp/

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By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9194/comment-page-1#comment-73667 Wed, 24 Nov 2010 17:18:31 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9194#comment-73667 Thanks JT.

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By: Johnny Twisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9194/comment-page-1#comment-73639 Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:40:07 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9194#comment-73639 http://bbwaa.com/2010/11/2010-al-cy-young/

See the bottom.

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By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9194/comment-page-1#comment-73636 Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:24:53 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9194#comment-73636 JT can you post the AL CY list? I did not see it.

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By: Johnny Twisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9194/comment-page-1#comment-73635 Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:23:18 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9194#comment-73635 The BBWAA revealed the first place votes on the AL CYA, so they could publicize that info for any award without the individual voter choosing to reveal it.

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By: Pete http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9194/comment-page-1#comment-73632 Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:16:49 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9194#comment-73632 @85, I think ballots are blind unless the reporter reveals how he voted. yet you're right, there is nothing outlandish about what he said. I am from NYC so perhaps I'm less sensitive to the whole thing.

who ever voted in new york did not vote for cano, so they were hardly homers, meanwhile at least one detroit reporter said he voted for Miggy (which is a fine) and there is confirmation (link below) that the vote for Bautisata did come from a Canadian reporter, so @77 was offbase, imho.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/great+Gonzalez+giveaway/3876746/story.html

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By: Raker http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9194/comment-page-1#comment-73616 Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:36:28 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9194#comment-73616 The true conversation pieces in regards to this blog is how different the MVP voting was from the WAR standings. Delmon Young in 10th at 0.8! Choo in 14th at 7.3. Vlade in 11th with 2.1..... Minny also had Thome getting some love for his half season of dominance......I have to admit, WAR aside, Delmon in 10th has me scratching my head.

Also, in the NL, how is it that Heyward and CarGo have essentially the same WAR? At least the voters can tell the difference.

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By: Doug B http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9194/comment-page-1#comment-73597 Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:40:40 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9194#comment-73597 OK. I will clarify in reply to Frank C.

I meant nothing to do with baseball on the field. And I think it is wrong.

I don't see how being a fan draw makes you an MVP. I don't see how being currently off drugs and alcohol makes you a fan draw either but that's another matter.

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