Comments on: Best defensive shortstops in 2010 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9067 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Los Angeles Dodgers Roster Analysis: Infield | Dodgers Central http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9067/comment-page-1#comment-71486 Sun, 14 Nov 2010 05:55:35 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9067#comment-71486 [...] on the team. Carroll was ranked as the 10th best defensive shortstop last year by Baseball-Reference.com and has earned the respect of a lot of players on the [...]

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By: 2010 Year In Review: Royals Shortstop | I-70 Baseball http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9067/comment-page-1#comment-71350 Sat, 13 Nov 2010 06:04:18 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9067#comment-71350 [...] number is -2, which means was slightly below average. That makes him the 17th best defensive shortstop in the [...]

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By: eorns http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9067/comment-page-1#comment-71222 Fri, 12 Nov 2010 18:49:05 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9067#comment-71222 #19 had a great point that you don't need a majority, just a plurality. This means that if the votes were scattered enough, Jeter may have gotten 15-20% of the vote and still won. So maybe not as many managers and coaches were that clueless...?

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By: Uncle Mike’s Friday BROWSing: The “At Least You Had a Better Week Than Dave Niehaus” Edition | Hire Jim Essian http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9067/comment-page-1#comment-71211 Fri, 12 Nov 2010 17:49:53 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9067#comment-71211 [...] case you’re still arguing that Derek Jeter deserved yet ANOTHER Gold Glove, he was one of the worst defensive shortstops in the league. Just ahead of Starlin Castro, of [...]

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By: Friday Links (12 Nov 10) – Ducksnorts http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9067/comment-page-1#comment-71159 Fri, 12 Nov 2010 14:22:02 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9067#comment-71159 [...] Derek Jeter’s selection as American League Gold Glover at shortstop exposes flaws in voting system (New York Daily News). It’s ridiculous, as it is every year. I no longer care. In fact, I even kind of like it. The terrorists have won. Meanwhile, the NL results have been announced and Hanley Ramirez was robbed. [...]

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By: Matt Y http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9067/comment-page-1#comment-70932 Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:31:28 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9067#comment-70932 You are probably right to a degree Wells, but I think what I said also has a sherd of truth. Being "mis-rated" can mean that he is overrated (most likely by traditional types) or underrated (most likely those that look way into the stats). It's somewhat an argument of semantics. There's also a sect of people that just don't like the Yanks and Jeter's-saintliness.

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By: Wells http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9067/comment-page-1#comment-70928 Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:23:50 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9067#comment-70928 Matt, I don't think Jeter is underrated at all by "statheads," whatever that means. No idea where you're getting that impression. I'm pretty sure most hardcore baseball fans realize how good he is.

If anything, he is "mis-rated" by the masses, because they recognize him for stuff like his leadership and awe-inspiring clutchness instead of much more important things like the fact that he's a shortstop who's going to get his 3,000th hit in his mid 30's, is rarely injured, and has consistently hit well over .300 and OBPed in the high .300s with decent power for well over a decade.

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By: Matt Y http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9067/comment-page-1#comment-70918 Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:05:51 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9067#comment-70918 As for Jeter being overrated, well, he is by more traditional types, but he's also underrated by statheads.

Going by WAR Jeter ranks as the 7th best SS of all-time even when including his less than stellar defense! He's behind only Wagner, Ripken, Davis, Vaughan, Dahlen, and Yount. That's pretty dang good, and he has a chance of passing Vaughan, Dahlen and Yount to end up 4th all time.

Why is Dahlen not in the Hall?

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By: Alicia http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9067/comment-page-1#comment-70898 Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:40:07 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9067#comment-70898 Scutaro didn't do too well either. I wonder if Bill James suggested that signing to Boston.

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By: Tom http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9067/comment-page-1#comment-70791 Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:54:10 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=9067#comment-70791 Here is a link to a pretty good essay on Jeter from Bill James

http://www.billjamesonline.net/fieldingbible/jeter.asp

and, for those of you who haven't seen it, here is the link to the Simpsons' sendup of Sabermeterics in which an animated version of James pokes fun at himself and, to some degree, all of us

http://www.hulu.com/watch/184048/the-simpsons-moneybart

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