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Tony Pena Jr. – You Ain’t No Bill Bergen

Posted by Raphy on November 30, 2008

A few days ago, Steve made mention of Bill Bergen as the only player to ever qualify for a batting title and have an OPS+ less than or equal to 10.

I looked a little further into Steve's list and was surprised to find the following pieces of information.

1) Among players with an OPS+ of 10 or less, Tony Perna Jr. in 2008 had the 4th most PA of any player since 1901.

2) The three season ahead of Pena were all turned in by Bill Bergen in 3 consecutive years.

Here's the top 10:

  Cnt Player             **PA** OPS+ Year Age Tm  Lg  G   AB  R   H  2B 3B HR RBI  BB IBB  SO HBP  SH  SF GDP  SB CS   BA   OBP   SLG   OPS  Positions
+----+-----------------+-------+----+----+---+---+--+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+-----+-----+-----+-----+---------+
    1 Bill Bergen         372      1 1909  31 BRO NL 112 346  16  48  1  1  1  15  10   0   0   0  16   0   0   4  0  .139  .163  .156  .319 *2        
    2 Bill Bergen         273      6 1910  32 BRO NL  89 249  11  40  2  1  0  14   6   0  39   0  18   0   0   0  0  .161  .180  .177  .357 *2        
    3 Bill Bergen         250     -4 1911  33 BRO NL  84 227   8  30  3  1  0  10  14   0  42   0   9   0   0   2  0  .132  .183  .154  .337 *2        
    4 Tony Pena           235      5 2008  27 KCR AL  95 225  22  38  4  1  1  14   6   2  49   0   2   2   4   3  1  .169  .189  .209  .398 *6/1      
    5 Frank O'Rourke      216    -11 1912  17 BSN NL  61 196  11  24  3  1  0  16  11   0  50   2   7   0   0   1  0  .122  .177  .148  .325 *6/5      
    6 Bill Killefer       215      9 1910  22 SLB AL  74 193  14  24  2  2  0   7  12   0   0   2   8   0   0   0  0  .124  .184  .155  .339 *2        
    7 John Black          201      6 1911  21 SLB AL  54 186  13  28  4  0  0   7  10   0   0   2   3   0   0   4  0  .151  .202  .172  .374 *3        
    8 Doc Powers          192      3 1906  35 PHA AL  58 185   5  29  1  0  0   7   1   0   0   2   4   0   0   2  0  .157  .170  .162  .332 *2/3      
    9 Angel Salazar       184      9 1984  22 MON NL  80 174  12  27  4  2  0  12   4   0  38   1   4   1   2   1  1  .155  .178  .201  .379 *6        
   10 Bob Didier          183      2 1970  21 ATL NL  57 168   9  25  2  1  0   7  12   4  11   1   2   0   3   1  0  .149  .210  .173  .383 *2        

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9 Responses to “Tony Pena Jr. – You Ain’t No Bill Bergen”

  1. JohnnyTwisto Says:

    Pena's season is even more amazing(?) considering MLB is a much more mature game than it was 100 years ago. The scouting and training are more advanced and thorough, which I would think make it harder to dominate and, by the same token, harder to be so bad that a replacement can't easily be found.

    How good would Pena's glove have to be to make him worth starting with that offensive output?

  2. Some of my friends found a clip of him pitching in a game a big ago and think he should become a pitcher, good arm.

  3. in light if this post, should we change the phrase "mendoza line" to "bergen line"? someone ask george brett.

  4. Pena's player page says his OPS+ was 7, not 5. ???

    He pitched a perfect inning of relief on July 21, 2008.

  5. redsock, My guess is that the value in PI is not park adjusted, while the one on his player page indicates that it is.

  6. JohnnyTwisto Says:

    That doesn't make any sense -- the purpose of OPS+ is that it _is_ park-adjusted. You should point this out to Sean. Obviously when the PI runs it is overlooking some data in its calculation. Maybe still using the previous year's park factor?

  7. Maybe still using the previous year’s park factor?

    Yes, this is probably it. I'll look into it.

  8. Thanks, I've fixed it. Our correct number is 7 and the P.I. now shows that.

  9. JohnnyTwisto Says:

    That should add another $25K when KC renews Pena's contract.