Comments on: Game Five Thoughts http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8954 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: steven http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8954/comment-page-1#comment-65883 Wed, 03 Nov 2010 07:57:34 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8954#comment-65883 @24: I just watched that youtube video of Koufax beating the Twins. It was great hearing Ray Scott do the play-by-play, and not having the screen covered with graphics. The players probably left the field so quickly because they had to start their off-season jobs the next day.

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By: SJBlonger http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8954/comment-page-1#comment-65791 Wed, 03 Nov 2010 00:44:30 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8954#comment-65791 @9 -- I slapped my forehead when they read that graphic. Did St. Louis teleport over from the east side sometime in the 60s?

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By: Jim Bouldin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8954/comment-page-1#comment-65787 Wed, 03 Nov 2010 00:11:22 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8954#comment-65787 @ 21:

Renteria's post-game quote of the homer pitcher: "The ball no cut". Apparently then, Lee was trying to throw a cutter toward the inside of the plate, and it just didn't do it.

John @ 22:
Yes, puzzling stats indeed, but the key stat comparison is the OPS of the SP the 4th time through, vs that of any relievers who replaced them, over the season (or postseason or whatever)

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By: Jim Bouldin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8954/comment-page-1#comment-65784 Tue, 02 Nov 2010 23:59:52 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8954#comment-65784 @ 6 Well I'd guess Beckett for the Marlins against the Yankees (03?) was one of em

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By: Dave51 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8954/comment-page-1#comment-65723 Tue, 02 Nov 2010 20:26:05 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8954#comment-65723 I am a big Ginats fan and am really happy now. I don't pretend to know what Bochy was thinking but...

Re: the bunt. Yes, Huff has been the better hitter thna Burrell, but I think when Bochy writes out that lineup card, he has faith in his players, including ones who are slumping. Maybe he was thinking it was Burrell's time or that he would at least hit a sac fly. And maybe he was thinking that it would be one out with two men in scoring position and a single (while you can never count on any hit, a single is generally a lot more likely than a home run) scores two runs, which should be enough, given how Timmy was pitching. Easy to second guess. I think it was a clearly defensible move.

Re: the Beard. Whatever the splits say about Timmy pitching to the lineup the fourth time, I think that was not relevant. I think he wanted Wilson on the mound in the ninth for many reasons. In no particular order: Wilson did not have a save in the WS and Bochy wanted him to have a chance to get one; it is a very normal move which Bochy has made many times this season- it's not like Timmy was working on a no-hitter or even a shutout; and Bochy wanted Wilson on the mound to close out the series because in the Giants' world, that would be the natural order of things.

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By: Cheese http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8954/comment-page-1#comment-65717 Tue, 02 Nov 2010 20:08:38 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8954#comment-65717 I didn't even see #16 above....correlation!

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By: Giants Baseball Torture. | Sports We Play http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8954/comment-page-1#comment-65714 Tue, 02 Nov 2010 20:05:30 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8954#comment-65714 [...] player who a few eyars ago was one of the top shorstops in the game. Once again players play for theiir own pride and their teamates….and those things…..at [...]

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By: Cheese http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8954/comment-page-1#comment-65713 Tue, 02 Nov 2010 20:02:27 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8954#comment-65713 I don't know if you frown at posting links here, but I am always amazed at this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7RNlg6qyyk

Compare it to last night....They leave the field so quickly and it was game 7 on the road, the great koufax..a shutout...different times.

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By: Evan http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8954/comment-page-1#comment-65710 Tue, 02 Nov 2010 19:50:34 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8954#comment-65710 To get rid of the selection bias we would probably need to strictly examine the OPS for the various times through the lineup but only including starts where the starter had a 4th time through the order. But this would still get to the problem of 4th time through the order often being against superior hitters because it is more apt be a partial trip through the order and thus only facing the top of the lineup. Also facing superior pinch hitters is more likely the further into a game the starter goes (especially in the NL). To really get into this you would need to examine some kind of pitcher OPS+ that takes into account the abilities of the hitters faced.

As for Bochy's decision, watching it last night my impression was that it was more about confidence in Wilson than it was lack of confidence in Lincecum. If it had been Girardi bringing in Rivera in a similar situation I don't think anyone would have questioned it. I'm not intending to equate Wilson with Rivera, but I believe that Bochy likely has a very high level of confidence in Wilson.

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