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Ace Vs. Ace In Game 5 LDS

Posted by Steve Lombardi on October 11, 2010

David Price and Cliff Lee will face off in Game 5 of the 2010 ALDS series between the Rays and Rangers. Is this the best match-up of starting pitchers, ever, for a Game 5 in an LDS?

Here's the list of all starters in a Game 5 LDS game:

Rk Player Date Series Gm# Tm Opp Rslt App,Dec IP H R ER BB SO HR Pit Str GSc IR IS BF AB 2B 3B IBB HBP SH SF GDP SB CS PO BK WP ERA WPA RE24 aLI
1 Bartolo Colon 2005-10-10 ALDS 5 LAA NYY W 5-3 GS-1 1.0 2 0 0 1 1 0 27 18 49     6 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0.011 0.130 1.147
2 Mike Mussina 2005-10-10 ALDS 5 NYY LAA L 3-5 GS-3 ,L 2.2 6 5 5 1 3 1 57 38 28     16 14 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 16.88 -0.387 -3.893 1.074
3 Roy Oswalt 2004-10-11 NLDS 5 HOU ATL W 12-3 GS-5 ,W 5.0 7 2 2 3 4 2 111 73 46     24 21 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3.60 0.058 0.623 .982
4 Jaret Wright 2004-10-11 NLDS 5 ATL HOU L 3-12 GS-6 ,L 5.1 6 4 4 1 1 2 81 48 40     22 20 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 6.75 -0.220 -1.398 .732
5 Pedro Martinez 2003-10-06 ALDS 5 BOS OAK W 4-3 GS-8 ,W 7.0 7 3 3 1 6 0 100 66 56     28 26 4 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3.86 -0.038 0.381 .999
6 Barry Zito 2003-10-06 ALDS 5 OAK BOS L 3-4 GS-6 ,L 6.0 4 4 4 2 4 2 99 62 50     24 21 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 6.00 -0.193 -0.765 1.087
7 Mike Hampton 2003-10-05 NLDS 5 ATL CHC L 1-5 GS-7 ,L 6.2 7 4 4 1 7 2 104 63 50     28 27 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 5.40 -0.094 -0.574 .751
8 Kerry Wood 2003-10-05 NLDS 5 CHC ATL W 5-1 GS-8 ,W 8.0 5 1 1 2 7 0 117 79 73     30 28 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1.12 0.398 3.188 .916
9 Kevin Millwood 2002-10-07 NLDS 5 ATL SFG L 1-3 GS-5 ,L 5.0 4 2 2 0 7 1 79 53 58     19 19 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3.60 0.009 0.528 .825
10 Russ Ortiz 2002-10-07 NLDS 5 SFG ATL W 3-1 GS-6 ,W 5.1 4 1 1 4 5 0 95 58 57     25 21 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1.69 0.226 2.116 1.350
11 Mark Mulder 2002-10-06 ALDS 5 OAK MIN L 4-5 GS-7 ,L 7.0 9 2 2 1 9 0 113 68 59     30 29 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2.57 0.162 1.728 1.198
12 Brad Radke 2002-10-06 ALDS 5 MIN OAK W 5-4 GS-7 ,W 6.2 6 1 1 0 4 1 95 68 62     25 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1.35 0.349 2.485 1.308
13 Chuck Finley 2001-10-15 ALDS 5 CLE SEA L 1-3 GS-5 ,L 4.1 4 2 2 4 7 0 90 48 50     20 14 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 2 1 0 1 4.15 -0.105 -1.017 1.251
14 Jamie Moyer 2001-10-15 ALDS 5 SEA CLE W 3-1 GS-6 ,W 6.0 3 1 1 1 6 0 86 51 67     21 20 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 1.50 0.271 2.088 1.150
15 Roger Clemens 2001-10-15 ALDS 5 NYY OAK W 5-3 GS-5 4.1 5 3 3 1 5 0 90 53 45     20 18 2 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 6.23 -0.022 -0.176 1.039
16 Mark Mulder 2001-10-15 ALDS 5 OAK NYY L 3-5 GS-5 ,L 4.1 7 4 2 2 2 0 86 55 37     24 18 0 0 0 2 1 1 1 0 2 2 0 0 4.15 -0.213 -1.778 1.375
17 Matt Morris 2001-10-14 NLDS 5 STL ARI L 1-2 GS-8 8.0 7 1 1 3 6 1 130 80 67     33 29 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 1.12 0.366 3.545 1.101
18 Curt Schilling 2001-10-14 NLDS 5 ARI STL W 2-1 CG 9 ,W 9.0 6 1 1 1 9 1 121 86 79     35 33 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.00 0.517 4.113 1.410
19 Gil Heredia 2000-10-08 ALDS 5 OAK NYY L 5-7 GS-1 ,L 0.1 4 6 6 2 0 0 23 11 17     7 4 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 162.00 -0.345 -4.682 1.471
20 Andy Pettitte 2000-10-08 ALDS 5 NYY OAK W 7-5 GS-4 3.2 10 5 5 2 4 0 88 55 23     23 19 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 12.27 -0.205 -3.182 .993
21 Charles Nagy 1999-10-11 ALDS 5 CLE BOS L 8-12 GS-3 3.0 6 8 7 2 2 2     17     17 15 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 21.00 -0.554 -5.800 .991
22 Bret Saberhagen 1999-10-11 ALDS 5 BOS CLE W 12-8 GS-2 1.0 4 5 5 1 0 2     24     8 7 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 45.00 -0.372 -4.387 1.049
23 Andy Pettitte 1997-10-06 ALDS 5 NYY CLE L 3-4 GS-7 ,L 6.2 6 4 4 0 2 0 97 68 48     26 23 2 0 0 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 5.40 -0.042 -0.121 .888
24 Jaret Wright 1997-10-06 ALDS 5 CLE NYY W 4-3 GS-6 ,W 5.1 8 3 2 3 5 0 112 67 44     26 23 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 3.38 0.013 -0.156 1.100
25 Andy Benes 1995-10-08 ALDS 5 SEA NYY W 6-5 GS-7 6.2 4 4 4 6 5 1 115 59 49     29 23 2 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 5.40 -0.138 -0.236 1.128
26 David Cone 1995-10-08 ALDS 5 NYY SEA L 5-6 GS-8 7.2 9 4 4 3 9 2 147 86 51     35 32 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 4.70 -0.220 -0.226 1.563
27 Ron Guidry 1981-10-11 ALDS 5 NYY MIL W 7-3 GS-4 4.0 4 2 2 1 3 1     48     17 15 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 4.50 -0.062 -0.220 .909
28 Moose Haas 1981-10-11 ALDS 5 MIL NYY L 3-7 GS-4 ,L 3.1 5 3 3 0 0 2     38     14 14 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8.10 -0.238 -1.453 1.142
29 Steve Carlton 1981-10-11 NLDS 5 PHI MON L 0-3 GS-8 ,L 8.0 7 3 3 3 7 0     60     31 28 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 0 3.38 -0.063 0.597 .954
30 Steve Rogers 1981-10-11 NLDS 5 MON PHI W 3-0 SHO9 ,W 9.0 6 0 0 1 2 0     76     33 32 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0.444 4.046 .932
31 Jerry Reuss 1981-10-11 NLDS 5 LAD HOU W 4-0 SHO9 ,W 9.0 5 0 0 3 4 0     78     36 33 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0.00 0.396 3.768 1.091
32 Nolan Ryan 1981-10-11 NLDS 5 HOU LAD L 0-4 GS-6 ,L 6.0 4 3 2 2 7 0     59     27 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 3.00 -0.086 -0.488 1.158
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I know it was not a "true" LDS series, in the sense that it was post-1994, but that 1981 match-up between Steve Carlton and Steve Rogers was an impressive one, heading into that game, no?

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13 Responses to “Ace Vs. Ace In Game 5 LDS”

  1. 10-11-1981 must have been a good day in baseball. TWO shutouts pitched in Ace vs. Ace games. Awesome.

  2. I'll say Pedro vs. Zito is the best match up I see, followed by Mulder vs. Clemens. I'll put Price and Lee third. Has it really been five years since we've had a game 5? Wow...

  3. If that Mussina-Colon match-up was 5 years earlier it would have been huge.

  4. 10-11-1981 was an interesting day in a completely screwed up year for baseball. I agree about Zito-Martinez being the best ace vs. ace, since most of the other match-ups there are ace vs. jack.

  5. That Matt Morris/Curt Schilling Game 5 in 2001 was a pretty good duel too.

  6. Dan Gilbert Says:

    If you are picking which game ended up being the best display of 2 pitchers in a game 5 "aces duel", I am going to pick the Schilling/Morris matchup. 251 total pitches, 17 innings, 15K's and only 3 earned runs. The only real blemish on either line is the 3 BBS by Morris.

  7. I agree, Derek. Moose-Colon's up there, too.

  8. Steve Carlton and Steve Rogers in the 1981 NLDS is a pretty good matchup.

  9. On a tangent ... Looking ahead to the presumptive Halladay/Lincecum matchup in NLCS Game 1, does anyone know of a prior LCS or WS opener pitting a reigning Cy Young Award winner against the guy who would win it for the current year? (Not that Halladay is a lock for this year's CYA, but he's got to be the heavy favorite.)

  10. Without looking it up to be certain, I would say Dwight Gooden vs Mike Scott in 1986.

  11. Nice work, Argman! (@10)

  12. very good data-collecting, steve. Just going up and down that list just gives you goosebumps. I watched A LOT of those games.

  13. DoubleDiamond Says:

    Since I am also a big fan of oldies music from the late 1950s through the early 1980s, when I see the names Lee and Price together, usually the first thing that comes to my mind is "Stagger Lee" by Lloyd Price.

    Even if the night is clear and the moon is yellow, will it be seen through that dome? (I should know, but I don't remember, if the Rays' stadium has a retractable roof.) And in the Tampa Bay area, I don't think the leaves will come tumbling down.