Comments on: Unit Beaters & The Chilifest http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8469 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Doug http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8469/comment-page-1#comment-56016 Mon, 04 Oct 2010 23:20:36 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8469#comment-56016 @43 Bob Uecker hit well against Sandy Koufax? He had .560 OPS in 41 PA. Actually, only pitcher Bob "owned" in a meaningful number of PA was Denny LeMaster (1.045 in 19 PA). Not exactly Koufax or Marichal.

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By: BSK http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8469/comment-page-1#comment-55657 Mon, 04 Oct 2010 04:28:10 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8469#comment-55657 HOJO!

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By: Kcroyals15 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8469/comment-page-1#comment-55631 Mon, 04 Oct 2010 03:08:26 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8469#comment-55631 Steve @9 you bring up a great point about Neifi hitting .333 with 3 HRs off Thr Unit which reminds of how Bob Uecker used to hit well against Sandy Koufax and not hit Joe Blows and all those forgotten crappy pitchers

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By: paul http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8469/comment-page-1#comment-55584 Sun, 03 Oct 2010 23:39:43 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8469#comment-55584 Good vs. Great, Part 2

Mike Lavaliiere had a 1.444 OPS in 20 PA against John Smoltz
Jorge Orta had a 1.327 OPS in 55 PA against Dennis Eckerlsey
Frank Catalanatto had a 1.318 OPS in 22 PA against Curt Schilling
Johnny Grubb had a 1.447 OPS in 20 PA against Juan Marichal
Johnny Grubb had a 1.527 OPS in 26PA against Burt Blyleven
Oddibe McDowell had a 1.397 OPS in 37 PA against Burt Blyleven
Tommie Reynolds ha a 1,388 in 30 PA against Mickey Lolich

32--Van--True, Edgar is great, but his OPS against Rivera is more than twice his career OPS (.933)
41--Excellent post
40--And speaking of Norm Cash, what about Willie Horton?

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By: TapDancingTeddy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8469/comment-page-1#comment-55566 Sun, 03 Oct 2010 21:58:15 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8469#comment-55566 THE NEAR GREAT
Cecil Cooper
Bobby Bonds (Power and speed and strikeouts, oh my!)
Al Oliver
Bobby Grich (Hurt his back lifting a window AC)
George "Boomer" Scott
Roy White
Graig Nettles
John Candelaria
Jack Clark
Ron Cey
Garry Maddox
Mark Belanger (I wanted to be the next one)

THE STUCK IN MY HEAD FOR UNKNOWN REASONS
Rick Burleson
George Hendrick (shocked to see him as a Rays coach!)
Craig Swan
Bake McBride (I'd have loved that name, if he never got a hit!)
Skip Lockwood
Ellis Valentine
Cesar Cedeno (potential, potential, potential)

Angel Mangual
Pepe Mangual
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Someone asked Pepe, "Aren't you Angel Mangual's brother?" Pepe replied, "No. This year I'm hitting better, so Angel's MY brother!"

Willie Montanez
Richie Hebner
Jay Johnstone
John Mayberry
Ron Kittle
Manny Sanguillen
John Milner

Freddy Patek
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Interviewer: Freddy, how does it feel being the shortest man in the Majors?
Freddy: A lot better than being the shortest man in the minors.

Bombo Rivera (BOMBO!!)

The Died Too Young
Lyman Bostock

and near great players now Yankee announcers, both here and gone:
Ken Singleton
Bobby Murcer.

And of course, a lot more than that.

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By: Wade K. http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8469/comment-page-1#comment-55562 Sun, 03 Oct 2010 21:47:04 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8469#comment-55562 #39: Gil Hodges, Rocky Colavito, Boog Powell, Joe Adcock, come to mind since you mention Cash, as well as one with a similar career to Cash, Frank Howard. Howard played almost exactly the same years that Cash did, '58-'73 (as opposed to '58-'74), and ended up with nearly identical ratio stats, and even a slightly higher OPS+ 142 vs. 139. If you think a different era might've gotten Cash to the HOF, then surely the same is true of Howard.

How about Cash's 1961 season? An OPS+ of 201, with his BA best by more than 80 points, OBP by more than 80 points, and SLG by more than 130. Truely one of the great fluke seasons ever seen.

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By: Chuck http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8469/comment-page-1#comment-55550 Sun, 03 Oct 2010 21:29:37 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8469#comment-55550 If you're going to be rueful about the less-than-Hall-of-Fame credentials of Bob Johnson, Reggie Smith and Will Clark, you have to feel the same for Norm Cash. Playing smack dab in the middle of the pitchers era of the 60s and 70s, be has the highest OPS+ of any player beyond Hall of Fame voting status (139). His .271/.374/.488 with 377 home runs projects out to a .291/.397/.522 with 418 HRs in a 750-run environment, or better yet, a .300/.407/.538 with 437 HRs in a year 2000 AL neutral environment, which might have been good enough to get him voted in.

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By: Todd http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8469/comment-page-1#comment-55545 Sun, 03 Oct 2010 21:03:59 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8469#comment-55545 Regarding Randy Velarde, I can tell you why he hit Randy Johnson so well. While he developed as a utility guy later in his career, he was an everyday middle infielder during the early to mid 90s. More importantly, he was the Yankees' everyday shortshop the year before Derek Jeter took over full-time. He was a dead-on fastball hitter, and he could hit anything thrown straight. (Breaking pitches, however, were the reason they gave that kid Jeter a chance.) The reason he lit up Randy Johnson is that when Randy Johnson was in his hardcore blow-them-out-of-the-stadium phase, he didn't really need movement or location to get most guys out. A fastball thrown down the middle was catnip to Velarde, however, no matter how hard it was thrown.

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By: aweb http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8469/comment-page-1#comment-55473 Sun, 03 Oct 2010 16:11:52 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8469#comment-55473 I always forget how good Davis was, it's just that he's very much in the "not great at anything, good at everything" group of hitters. He never lead the league in anything aside from sac flies once, but that's quite a career. He's also a great example of the usefulness of OPS+. In 1984, he had an OPS of .875, OPS+ of 148. 10 years later, an OPS of .971 gets an OPS+ of 147. Things changed a bit in between. It's funny that possibly his worst year, 1993, was the only one in which he made it over 100 RBI. Otherwise he might've been the leader in career RBI for guys without 100 in a year (not sure how to find out who that actually is).

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By: MikeD http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8469/comment-page-1#comment-55382 Sun, 03 Oct 2010 08:35:34 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8469#comment-55382 Bernie Williams.

Not only is he forgotten just a few years after retirement, he played in New York, for the New York Yankees, and was the CFer for a dynasty team. He's never mentioned, even when people talk about forgotten players. That's truly under the radar.

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