Comments on: WHAT IF the American League abandoned the DH? http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8397 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: doug http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8397/comment-page-1#comment-57770 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 22:43:48 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8397#comment-57770 I love the DH, I'd rather see Posada bat than Sabbathia anyday.
Pitchers can't hit, don't get paid more to hit, don't practice it, and don't care about it.
You can't hit Major League pitching when you bat just 2-3 times a week.
It rarely gets mentioned how often they pitch around the #8 batter to get to the pitcher
if there is any threat - so it really wrecks two spots in the order.

The other thing I never see mentioned is the AL ERA's adjusted for the DH.
It has to up a pitcher's ERA a half a run, that's why top AL pitchers are in the low 3's
while the top NL pitchers are in the high 2's. So an ERA of 3.30 in the AL is equivalent
to 2.70 in the NL - roughly speaking.

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By: Johnny Twisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8397/comment-page-1#comment-53994 Tue, 28 Sep 2010 20:05:20 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8397#comment-53994 hewing tobacco *IS* baseball!!" Righteous words! I wish I had said that! Let's bring back chewing tobacco!

Great idea! http://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/7/4/443/F2.large.jpg

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By: Neil L http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8397/comment-page-1#comment-53619 Tue, 28 Sep 2010 01:12:16 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8397#comment-53619 @63
I'm thick-headed tonight! How would a designated fielder work? Not that I would favour a radical change.

So does the whole DH debate boil down to traditionalists vs. innovators? I'm confused.

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By: Bryan Mueller http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8397/comment-page-1#comment-53559 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:13:36 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8397#comment-53559 Although I am not a fan of the DH, I don't feel too strongly about it. I kind of like the fact that it differentiates the leagues. However, if there is a DH, why not have the option of a designated fielder?

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By: ottoc http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8397/comment-page-1#comment-53514 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:24:43 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8397#comment-53514 Nelson said: "I just don't believe in distorting the game and putting things in it that weren't there before--like the DH, for instance."

The DH is not a new concept. Connie Mack floated the idea in 1906 when he was disgusted with watching his pitchers try to bat. The NL president revived the idea in the late 1920s. Both leagues experimented with the DH in spring training 1969.

If we're going to retro-baseball, why not go way back to the time when pitchers threw underhand and the battrers could ask for a high pitch or a low pitch.

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By: Djibouti http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8397/comment-page-1#comment-53502 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 18:41:54 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8397#comment-53502 While we're at it, let's get rid of gloves, return to under-hand pitching, abolish stadium lights (and by extension night games) and re-segregate the sport. Now that's pure baseball!

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By: Nelson http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8397/comment-page-1#comment-53494 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 18:18:30 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8397#comment-53494 You're ridiculous, Tmckelv. I just don't believe in distorting the game and putting things in it that weren't there before--like the DH, for instance. I am in favor of turning back the clock to a purer form of the game. I would even be for bringing back the spitball if there weren't health risks.

This reminds me of an anti-tobacco campaign my club was broadcasting at the ballpark several years ago. On the Jumbotron the moron making the announcement said, "remember! chewing tobacco is NOT a part of baseball!" The guy in front of me was as outraged as I was and shouted out, "chewing tobacco isn't a part of baseball!? chewing tobacco *IS* baseball!!" Righteous words! I wish I had said that! Let's bring back chewing tobacco!

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By: Tmckelv http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8397/comment-page-1#comment-53466 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:53:20 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8397#comment-53466 Hey, who wants to have a round table discussion with Nelson and Edwin...we can talk about the Church League Softball and the Roaring 20's all day long.

By then end of the discussion, maybe gloves will be outlawed for players, the spit-ball will be legal, and they will figure out a way to have a team score 1/2 of a run, so the final scores of the games could be 0.5-0 instead of the much-too-high-scoring games of 1-0.

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By: Dvd Avins http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8397/comment-page-1#comment-53421 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 15:16:26 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8397#comment-53421 One fo the most striking differences between today's game and that I remember from the early 1970s (before the DH) and mid-70s (before the style of play had fully adjusted) is how much faster the slowest outfielder on the fi9eld is. That's because many of the people with strong bats who were poor defensive players played left (or occasionally right) field.

So if the DH were to justly go the way of the wooly mamoth, I'd expect to see an increas in triples in the gap that today are cut off for singles. That would affect both leagues, as currently aging NLers finish their career in the AL if they can't run anynmore.

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By: Jeff Wise http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8397/comment-page-1#comment-53420 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 15:03:28 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8397#comment-53420 Pitchers have enough to worry about already. They need to focus on pitching.

I find NL games quite boring and it's always a bummer when the pitcher comes up to bat. Way too predictable. It's either a bunt or an out.

It's pointless. Half of the pitchers who hit give up. They just wave the bat as if they're really trying hard. They just want to get back to the dugout and get focused on pitching. I don't blame them!

I agree with someone above. If you take the DH out you have to take the pitchers out.

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