Comments on: Rafael Betancourt’s amazing K/BB ratio http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8336 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: BobBobson http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8336/comment-page-1#comment-54045 Tue, 28 Sep 2010 23:42:26 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8336#comment-54045 @ Fcomerejo

Pedro? More like the Johnson ratio. 14 seasons of 10+ K/9, led the league 9 times, and 7 of the top 10 performances single-season therein.

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By: fcomerejo http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8336/comment-page-1#comment-52397 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:36:16 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8336#comment-52397 Ok, I know this is about Rafael Betancourt, but the SO/9 ratio should be called the Pedro ratio... this guy was both amazing and brilliant in the mound.

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By: Paul http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8336/comment-page-1#comment-52310 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:24:40 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8336#comment-52310 Oh, pre-TJ surgery Pat Neshek, we miss you and your crazy snaggle-tooth so...

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By: bill http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8336/comment-page-1#comment-52306 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:18:47 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8336#comment-52306 K/BB should really include HBP, since it's effectively the same thing.

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By: Jesse http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8336/comment-page-1#comment-52287 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:20:47 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8336#comment-52287 I had forgotten just how good Curt Schillings' 2001 and 2002 seasons where. He pitched 259.1 innings at age 35 in Arizona with a sub 1.00WHIP in 2002. While striking out 316 batters that is crazy.

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By: Neil L http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8336/comment-page-1#comment-51813 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:06:18 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8336#comment-51813 @15
Fair enough, Andy. One can subjectively "filter" the names on the list to separate oddities from solid acheivements based on common knowlege.

I suppose it is difficult to distinguish starters from releivers in the search. The point being that a reliever like Rafael Betancourt might not maintain his favourable ratio if he had to go more than once through the order in a given game like a starter such as Pedro Martinez or Curt Schilling.

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By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8336/comment-page-1#comment-51811 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 01:53:43 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8336#comment-51811 I just don't agree Neil. By putting the IP low, the list includes both exceptional performances such as those by Gagne and Pedro as well as flukes of passing interest by others. All the info you could want, even if ignoring the low-IP performances, is there.

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By: Neil L http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8336/comment-page-1#comment-51810 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 01:48:55 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8336#comment-51810 Already been said, Andy, but to be interesting the list has to have a higher cut-off in terms of innings pitched or batters faced.

What I would like to know about Rafael Betancourt from people closer to his situation than I, is how is he being used this year?

In looking at his 2010 stats, I conclude he is a "middle"(?) reliever, which is surprising considering his control and dominance of batters.

He is facing only about 3.7 batters per appearance and less than an inning per appearance, so he is not a long reliever.

I would assume he is a niche pitcher, a specialist who benefits from favorable righty-lefty matchups. Am I doing him a disservice here? Given his awesome K/9 IP, perhaps it is his age that prohibits him from being promoted to a more prominant role with the Rockies.

Or is it one of those statistical quirks that is invisible even as it is happening.....?

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By: Kahuna Tuna http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8336/comment-page-1#comment-51705 Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:40:53 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8336#comment-51705 Jason has a good idea in players with similar seasons in their career.

Going by memory from the New Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, take a look at John Gochnaur, 1902-03, and Bob Bailey, 1967-68.

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By: Noodle http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8336/comment-page-1#comment-51701 Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:26:02 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=8336#comment-51701 this Pedro martinez guy sounds like a good pitcher....

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