Comments on: POLL: Which is the dumber injury? http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7839 This and that about baseball stats. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:57:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Lee http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7839/comment-page-1#comment-39572 Lee Thu, 19 Aug 2010 14:39:00 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=7839#comment-39572 I was talking about the Morales injury which happened May 29, with about 2/3 of the season left. I was talking about the Morales injury which happened May 29, with about 2/3 of the season left.

]]> By: Mike Felber http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7839/comment-page-1#comment-39523 Mike Felber Thu, 19 Aug 2010 07:06:34 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=7839#comment-39523 K-Rod was clearly much "more stupider". Criminal, violent, worse personal & team consequences...It is unlikely there is a justification. Only if the older man assaulted him 1st is there a mitigation-& even Pedro only incapacitated his inferior attacker. Lee, how could it cost the team 3 wins? If you consider something like WAR, over the less than 1/4 of the season remaining, Coghlan would have to be close to as good as the best season in history, compared to a replacement player. Meaning he would be worth over 12 wins in the course of '10. K-Rod was clearly much "more stupider". Criminal, violent, worse personal & team consequences...It is unlikely there is a justification. Only if the older man assaulted him 1st is there a mitigation-& even Pedro only incapacitated his inferior attacker.

Lee, how could it cost the team 3 wins? If you consider something like WAR, over the less than 1/4 of the season remaining, Coghlan would have to be close to as good as the best season in history, compared to a replacement player. Meaning he would be worth over 12 wins in the course of '10.

]]> By: Frank Clingenpeel http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7839/comment-page-1#comment-39427 Frank Clingenpeel Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:29:35 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=7839#comment-39427 Jeff W., Yes, I was trying a little reverse psychology there. Violence in ALL contexts is not stupid; it's sick. Like those who would claim rape to be a crime of passion -- it's hate, pure and simple. Jeff W.,

Yes, I was trying a little reverse psychology there. Violence in ALL contexts is not stupid; it's sick. Like those who would claim rape to be a crime of passion -- it's hate, pure and simple.

]]> By: Frank Clingenpeel http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7839/comment-page-1#comment-39425 Frank Clingenpeel Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:26:47 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=7839#comment-39425 Jeff Jeff

]]> By: StephenH http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7839/comment-page-1#comment-39365 StephenH Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:05:11 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=7839#comment-39365 I go with K-Rod's being dumber. It may end up costing him millions. He lost control of himself, lost his temper and screwed himself and his team. I go with K-Rod's being dumber. It may end up costing him millions. He lost control of himself, lost his temper and screwed himself and his team.

]]> By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7839/comment-page-1#comment-39280 Andy Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:26:41 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=7839#comment-39280 I just want to clear things up a bit. I am not equating Coghlan's behavior with K-Rod's behavior. Assault is terrible and unacceptable. My point is just that they are both dumb in their own ways, especially when looking at it from just the team's perspective that each player made himself unavailable to play for an extended period of time. I just want to clear things up a bit.

I am not equating Coghlan's behavior with K-Rod's behavior. Assault is terrible and unacceptable. My point is just that they are both dumb in their own ways, especially when looking at it from just the team's perspective that each player made himself unavailable to play for an extended period of time.

]]> By: BSK http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7839/comment-page-1#comment-39274 BSK Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:56:27 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=7839#comment-39274 Manuel claims that if we knew K-Rod's side of the story, we'd have a much different take on the situation. It's really hard to know exactly what happened in the altercation, so I reserve judgement until more info comes to light. I don't know anything that really justifies violence, but people (particularly men) are going to fight. It's not really that outside the ordinary. K-Rod is getting a lot of flack because he's become a bit of a whipping boy, especially in NY, because of his (perceived) lackluster performance at times, his demeanor, his salary, etc, etc, etc. The narrative on him is that he's a hot head who can't be counted on, so when a situation arises that seems to support that narrative, we ignore any possible nuance. What would be the reaction if this happened to Rivera? On a related note, I just saw a replay of Thome's walk off. As he approaches homeplate and the mob of helmetless teammates, he throws his helmet high into the air. You can actually see the umpire track the flight and start to run out of the way. Imagine if it had landed on someone? Yet another idiotic celebration that need not happen. Manuel claims that if we knew K-Rod's side of the story, we'd have a much different take on the situation. It's really hard to know exactly what happened in the altercation, so I reserve judgement until more info comes to light. I don't know anything that really justifies violence, but people (particularly men) are going to fight. It's not really that outside the ordinary. K-Rod is getting a lot of flack because he's become a bit of a whipping boy, especially in NY, because of his (perceived) lackluster performance at times, his demeanor, his salary, etc, etc, etc. The narrative on him is that he's a hot head who can't be counted on, so when a situation arises that seems to support that narrative, we ignore any possible nuance. What would be the reaction if this happened to Rivera?

On a related note, I just saw a replay of Thome's walk off. As he approaches homeplate and the mob of helmetless teammates, he throws his helmet high into the air. You can actually see the umpire track the flight and start to run out of the way. Imagine if it had landed on someone? Yet another idiotic celebration that need not happen.

]]> By: groundball http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7839/comment-page-1#comment-39245 groundball Wed, 18 Aug 2010 08:33:31 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=7839#comment-39245 Coglan has the dumber injury. Rodriguez has the dumber reason for being injured. Coglan has the dumber injury.

Rodriguez has the dumber reason for being injured.

]]> By: Richard http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7839/comment-page-1#comment-39222 Richard Wed, 18 Aug 2010 05:32:09 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=7839#comment-39222 I can't believe anyone voted for the pie I can't believe anyone voted for the pie

]]> By: Dale http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7839/comment-page-1#comment-39217 Dale Wed, 18 Aug 2010 04:58:32 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=7839#comment-39217 I vote for Morales. I vote for Morales.

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