Comments on: Brandon Morrow’s Big Day 8/8/10 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7735 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Mike Gaber http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7735/comment-page-1#comment-37388 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:29:02 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=7735#comment-37388 For fewest pitches in a game by 1 pitcher in a complete game, that might have been during the War years in 1944.
I thought it was the last game of the season, but it turns out it was on Aug 10, 1944.

Charley "Red" Barrett pitching for the Boston Braves only needed 58 pitches in a game against/at the Cincinnati Reds.
Complete game 2-0 shutout, 2 hits, no walks, 58 pitches.

Time of game was 1 hour and 15 minutes.

I remember the newspapers in Chicago had more to say about that game than almost all the games during the 1944 season and it didn't involve the 2 Chicago teams.
They said it was the shortest "night game in history", but obviously not as short as the 51 minute game cited by # 26 above in 1919 which obviously wasn't a night game.

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By: Gerry http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7735/comment-page-1#comment-37330 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 23:24:55 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=7735#comment-37330 On 28 September 1919, the Giants beat the Phillies, 6-1, in a game that lasted - wait for it - 51 minutes. I think there was an agreement that the batters would just swing at every pitch to see how quickly they could get through a game. I know we don't have pitch counts, but I bet that close to 100% of the pitches thrown by both teams were strikes.

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By: Joe http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7735/comment-page-1#comment-37323 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 22:49:21 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=7735#comment-37323 Interesting to me that on Saturday, the Jays and rays combined for 28 runs and 29 hits, and on Sunday combined for 1 run and 6 hits. Could that possibly be the record for the largest score and hit differential for consecutive games between two teams? (A difference of 27 runs and 23 hits).

Also, I think the Blue Jays must now have the record for the most potential no-hitters lost with 2 outs in the 9th inning of any team. Dave Stieb did it 3 times, Halladay did it in his 2nd career start, and now Morrow.

Stieb deserves a special mention here, as well. In 1988 and 1989, Stieb had 3 no-hitters broken up with 2 outs in the 9th inning, and pitched another 2 1-hitters, before finally finishing a no-no off in 1990. He was one of the best pitchers of the 80's. It's just too bad his career trailed off as sharply as it did.

Finally, Evan, your last note brings up Johan Santana's latest start in my mind - he had a no-hitter going with 2 outs in the 6th, then struck out Raul Ibanez for what would've been the 3rd out, but the pitch got away and Ibanez reached. On the next pitch, Placido Polanco broke up the no-no with a single. Not exactly the situation you brought up, but similar.

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By: Evan http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7735/comment-page-1#comment-37262 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:39:05 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=7735#comment-37262 Good point JT - the page I copied that from had a slightly ambiguous statement of the formula and I neglected to correct it when I pasted.

Statboy, that is true. It is also true that it needn't be a perfect game since Game Score doesn't punish a pitcher for having a batter reach on an error so long as the runner doesn't score. This does beg the question (in my mind at least) of what is the latest point in a game that a perfect game has ever been broken up by a batter reaching on a strikeout?

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By: Johnny Twisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7735/comment-page-1#comment-37257 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:32:51 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=7735#comment-37257 Basmati, yes, it's rare. The last GS of at least 100 was Randy Johnson's 13-K perfect game in 2004. Game scores are not capped at either end, but the scale basically goes from about 0 to 100, with an average around 50. A score of 100 (especially if it's in 9 IP) is one of the best-pitched games you'll ever see. There have been only 9 games since 1920 with a GS of at least 100 in no more than 9 IP. Three were by Nolan Ryan. There probably aren't too many more prior to 1920 as there were fewer strikeouts. (Most of the scores over 100 are by pitchers who lasted into extra innings -- impressive, no doubt, but hard to compare.)

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By: Johnny Twisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7735/comment-page-1#comment-37254 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:24:46 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=7735#comment-37254 One clarification to Evan's formula: It's two points for each inning completed after the 4th.

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By: statboy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7735/comment-page-1#comment-37248 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:09:48 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=7735#comment-37248 @20,

What about striking out 28+ batters in 9 innings?

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By: Evan http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7735/comment-page-1#comment-37247 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:05:44 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=7735#comment-37247 Basmati @19,

Game Score isn't scored on a 100 point metric. The score is computed as 50 + 1*Outs + 2*IP after the 4th + 1*K - 2*H - 4*ER - 2*UnearnedRuns - 1*BB.

This makes the maximum score for a 9 inning game 114 (50 + 27 + 10 + 27, with no deductions ). This would be achieved by throwing a perfect game and striking out all 27 batters.

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By: Basmati http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7735/comment-page-1#comment-37241 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 18:50:28 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=7735#comment-37241 I'm sure this has been brought up before but I see Morrow had a gamescore of 100. That must be pretty rare right? How come he scored 100 if he didn't throw a perfect game?

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By: JeffW http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7735/comment-page-1#comment-37193 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 17:14:18 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=7735#comment-37193 I'm wondering how Billy O'Dell's arm felt on Apr. 16, 1962, after tossing 172 pitches in nine against the Dodgers in a 19-8 victory!

That was just his second start of the season, and they sent him out there to throw a complete-game 15-hitter.

For the record, he was credited with 111 strikes thrown. Thirty-four were called, 11 were swung at and missed. The rest were hit all over the place, evidently.

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