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	<title>Comments on: Joe Mauer&#8217;s feat that is rarer than no-hitters and cycles</title>
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		<title>By: Kaflookey</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7586/comment-page-1#comment-34420</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaflookey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Sandberg&#039;s case, his WPA was &gt;1.000. Also Willie McGee hit for the cycle in the same game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Sandberg's case, his WPA was &gt;1.000. Also Willie McGee hit for the cycle in the same game.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7586/comment-page-1#comment-34221</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Fantusta</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7586/comment-page-1#comment-34220</link>
		<dc:creator>Fantusta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To use a different example: if the sound of a jet airplane is 100dB and that of a whisper 50dB, the whisper 
is not &quot;twice as quiet&quot;, it&#039;s &quot;half as loud&quot;. Decibels don&#039;t measure quietness, they measure loudness;&quot;

Interesting that you totally screwed up your example.  Decibels are actually a logarithmic scale, so 100dB is NOT twice as loud as 50 dB.  In fact, something that is 53 dB is about twice as loud as something that&#039;s 50dB.
If you&#039;re going to be picky, you should pick your examples better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"To use a different example: if the sound of a jet airplane is 100dB and that of a whisper 50dB, the whisper<br />
is not "twice as quiet", it's "half as loud". Decibels don't measure quietness, they measure loudness;"</p>
<p>Interesting that you totally screwed up your example.  Decibels are actually a logarithmic scale, so 100dB is NOT twice as loud as 50 dB.  In fact, something that is 53 dB is about twice as loud as something that's 50dB.<br />
If you're going to be picky, you should pick your examples better.</p>
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		<title>By: JOE-MAUER.ORG &#8211; Your #1 online source for Minnesota Twins&#39; star Joe Mauer! &#187; Joe Mauer’s feat that is rarer than no-hitters and cycles</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOE-MAUER.ORG &#8211; Your #1 online source for Minnesota Twins&#39; star Joe Mauer! &#187; Joe Mauer’s feat that is rarer than no-hitters and cycles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about Joe&#8217;s 5 hits and 7 RBIs game against the Royals two nights ago! Credit to Baseball-Reference.com Last night, Joe Mauer had 5 hits and 7 RBI while the Twins obliterated the Royals. Turns out this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about Joe&#8217;s 5 hits and 7 RBIs game against the Royals two nights ago! Credit to Baseball-Reference.com Last night, Joe Mauer had 5 hits and 7 RBI while the Twins obliterated the Royals. Turns out this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BSK</title>
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		<dc:creator>BSK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy a bit on the defensive today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy a bit on the defensive today?</p>
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		<title>By: DoubleDiamond</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7586/comment-page-1#comment-34156</link>
		<dc:creator>DoubleDiamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that while this achievement is rare, it seems to come in bunches:

2 in the same game by Giants teammates against the Phillies on June 1, 1923. The Phillies had also been the victims of such a feat in 1922.

Jimmie Foxx doing it in both 1932 and 1933.

Bob Johnson doing it in both 1937 and 1938, both for the Philadelphia A&#039;s against the White Sox in Chicago.

Dave Parker doing it, as part of a winning team, the day after Mickey Brantley in 1987.

Shea Hillenbrand and Casey Blake doing it two days apart in 2003.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that while this achievement is rare, it seems to come in bunches:</p>
<p>2 in the same game by Giants teammates against the Phillies on June 1, 1923. The Phillies had also been the victims of such a feat in 1922.</p>
<p>Jimmie Foxx doing it in both 1932 and 1933.</p>
<p>Bob Johnson doing it in both 1937 and 1938, both for the Philadelphia A's against the White Sox in Chicago.</p>
<p>Dave Parker doing it, as part of a winning team, the day after Mickey Brantley in 1987.</p>
<p>Shea Hillenbrand and Casey Blake doing it two days apart in 2003.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7586/comment-page-1#comment-34138</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I wrote it I I knew it was grammatically incorrect but assumed that nobody would be enough of a stickler to point out something so unrelated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I wrote it I I knew it was grammatically incorrect but assumed that nobody would be enough of a stickler to point out something so unrelated.</p>
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		<title>By: David in NYC</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7586/comment-page-1#comment-34134</link>
		<dc:creator>David in NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no such thing as &quot;4 times rarer&quot;.  It is &quot;1/4 as common&quot; or &quot;happens 25% as often&quot; or something similar.  To use a different example:  if the sound of a jet airplane is 100dB and that of a whisper 50dB, the whisper is not &quot;twice as quiet&quot;, it&#039;s &quot;half as loud&quot;.  Decibels don&#039;t measure quietness, they measure loudness; in the instant case, we don&#039;t measure &quot;rareness&quot;, we measure &quot;frequency&quot;.

Sorry to be the grammar police, but that&#039;s one of my pet peeves.  English is a wonderful, powerful, and flexible tool -- but only if you use it correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no such thing as "4 times rarer".  It is "1/4 as common" or "happens 25% as often" or something similar.  To use a different example:  if the sound of a jet airplane is 100dB and that of a whisper 50dB, the whisper is not "twice as quiet", it's "half as loud".  Decibels don't measure quietness, they measure loudness; in the instant case, we don't measure "rareness", we measure "frequency".</p>
<p>Sorry to be the grammar police, but that's one of my pet peeves.  English is a wonderful, powerful, and flexible tool -- but only if you use it correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Gaber</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7586/comment-page-1#comment-34132</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Gaber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was following this game on CBS Game Tracker:

In the 8th inning it was Mauer&#039;s turn to bat.
1 Out, man on first.
But they pinch hit for him.
I was shocked because he could have hit and if he got on, then been pinch run for.

In the Game Recap Story Gardenhire said he asked him if he wanted to hit?
He said, &quot;no I&#039;m good&quot;
Gardenhire said: &quot;That&#039;s good enough for me&quot;

Oh, yes: The pinch hitter Drew Butera hit into a double play...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was following this game on CBS Game Tracker:</p>
<p>In the 8th inning it was Mauer's turn to bat.<br />
1 Out, man on first.<br />
But they pinch hit for him.<br />
I was shocked because he could have hit and if he got on, then been pinch run for.</p>
<p>In the Game Recap Story Gardenhire said he asked him if he wanted to hit?<br />
He said, "no I'm good"<br />
Gardenhire said: "That's good enough for me"</p>
<p>Oh, yes: The pinch hitter Drew Butera hit into a double play...</p>
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		<title>By: Tmckelv</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/7586/comment-page-1#comment-34119</link>
		<dc:creator>Tmckelv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would it be fair to count all starting pitchers, but only count those batters that had 5 PA&#039;s as the starting points for calculating the &quot;rarity&quot; of each event (in terms of how often the events have happened in the past as opposed to often they might happen in the future)? 

This, however, would not allow for IBB or HBP or managerial decisions like bunting - which would cause the player to not &quot;legitimately&quot; have a shot at 5 plate appearances (even though his box score says 5 PA&#039;s). But it would still be better than counting all batters given that a vast majority would not have a chance at 5 PA&#039;s (How many pitchers for away teams get 5 PA&#039;s?).

But then you run into guys that only have 4 PA&#039;s, but would have had 5 if they had gotten 4 hits themselves, and how those guys are counted. 

Like everyone has said, this is too complicated, nevermind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would it be fair to count all starting pitchers, but only count those batters that had 5 PA's as the starting points for calculating the "rarity" of each event (in terms of how often the events have happened in the past as opposed to often they might happen in the future)? </p>
<p>This, however, would not allow for IBB or HBP or managerial decisions like bunting - which would cause the player to not "legitimately" have a shot at 5 plate appearances (even though his box score says 5 PA's). But it would still be better than counting all batters given that a vast majority would not have a chance at 5 PA's (How many pitchers for away teams get 5 PA's?).</p>
<p>But then you run into guys that only have 4 PA's, but would have had 5 if they had gotten 4 hits themselves, and how those guys are counted. </p>
<p>Like everyone has said, this is too complicated, nevermind.</p>
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