Comments on: CG Ls and NDs http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/726 This and that about baseball stats. Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:13:05 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: gerry http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/726/comment-page-1#comment-5214 gerry Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:14:10 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=726#comment-5214 I've asked the good people at Retrosheet to double-check the Spahn game, and they have found that indeed it was the Giants leading at the time of the forfeit. I expect they'll make the change sometime soon (if they haven't already). I've asked the good people at Retrosheet to double-check the Spahn game, and they have found that indeed it was the Giants leading at the time of the forfeit. I expect they'll make the change sometime soon (if they haven't already).

]]> By: gerry http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/726/comment-page-1#comment-5188 gerry Sat, 26 Jul 2008 05:39:21 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=726#comment-5188 BunnyWrangler, I'm almost sure that you are right and (although it pains me to write this) retrosheet is wrong about who was in the lead. This is the Spahn game, and if the Braves had been in the lead, there would have been no problem crediting him with the win. Do a websearch for Spahn forfeit 1942 and you'll find several write-ups. BunnyWrangler, I'm almost sure that you are right and (although it pains me to write this) retrosheet is wrong about who was in the lead. This is the Spahn game, and if the Braves had been in the lead, there would have been no problem crediting him with the win.

Do a websearch for Spahn forfeit 1942 and you'll find several write-ups.

]]> By: BunnyWrangler http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/726/comment-page-1#comment-5186 BunnyWrangler Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:40:30 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=726#comment-5186 Whiz, that's a great link. Thanks for that. I guess that I was wrong about who led in that game, though. Sorry. Whiz, that's a great link. Thanks for that.

I guess that I was wrong about who led in that game, though. Sorry.

]]> By: whiz http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/726/comment-page-1#comment-5178 whiz Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:29:04 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=726#comment-5178 Retrosheet has a comprehensive listing of forfeits at http://www.retrosheet.org/forfeits.htm . There is only one game mentioned in 1942 (the scrap metal game). It's an interesting list. On more than one occasion a game was forfeited because a team was stalling, hoping the game would be called on account of darkness or curfew before it became official (the Cardinals and Phillies traded stalling forfeits in 1937 and 1954). Retrosheet has a comprehensive listing of forfeits at http://www.retrosheet.org/forfeits.htm . There is only one game mentioned in 1942 (the scrap metal game). It's an interesting list. On more than one occasion a game was forfeited because a team was stalling, hoping the game would be called on account of darkness or curfew before it became official (the Cardinals and Phillies traded stalling forfeits in 1937 and 1954).

]]> By: BunnyWrangler http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/726/comment-page-1#comment-5169 BunnyWrangler Fri, 25 Jul 2008 04:00:54 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=726#comment-5169 I own a book that makes reference to a 1942 forfeit by the Giants to the Braves, although it includes no mention of who pitched that game. The game that it describes, which may be completely different from Spahn's CG ND, took place on September 26. The Polo Grounds admitted for free any children who brought in some scrap metal for the war effort, but the promotion backfired when the kids invaded the field in the eighth inning. New York led 5-2 at the time. I own a book that makes reference to a 1942 forfeit by the Giants to the Braves, although it includes no mention of who pitched that game. The game that it describes, which may be completely different from Spahn's CG ND, took place on September 26. The Polo Grounds admitted for free any children who brought in some scrap metal for the war effort, but the promotion backfired when the kids invaded the field in the eighth inning. New York led 5-2 at the time.

]]> By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/726/comment-page-1#comment-5168 Andy Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:19:08 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=726#comment-5168 Very interesting, Gerry. Very interesting, Gerry.

]]> By: gerry http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/726/comment-page-1#comment-5167 gerry Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:17:47 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=726#comment-5167 The Spahn game was a forfeit. I think the way it worked was, Spahn's team was losing when, for some reason, the game was forfeited in their favor. Since they were losing, he couldn't get credit for the win, but since he was the only pitcher his team used, he had to get credit for the complete game. The Spahn game was a forfeit. I think the way it worked was, Spahn's team was losing when, for some reason, the game was forfeited in their favor. Since they were losing, he couldn't get credit for the win, but since he was the only pitcher his team used, he had to get credit for the complete game.

]]> By: Raphy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/726/comment-page-1#comment-5165 Raphy Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:36:48 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=726#comment-5165 OK Gerry, What was it? OK Gerry, What was it?

]]> By: gerry http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/726/comment-page-1#comment-5160 gerry Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:01:12 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=726#comment-5160 One of my favorite baseball factoids concerns Warren Spahn's record in 1942; 0-0, with 1 complete game. It wasn't a tie, either. One of my favorite baseball factoids concerns Warren Spahn's record in 1942; 0-0, with 1 complete game. It wasn't a tie, either.

]]> By: Raphy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/726/comment-page-1#comment-5158 Raphy Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:31:13 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=726#comment-5158 I meant 1957. I meant 1957.

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