Comments on: Tim Redding Part 2 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/718 This and that about baseball stats. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:57:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: BunnyWrangler http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/718/comment-page-1#comment-5093 BunnyWrangler Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:45:59 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=718#comment-5093 Aw, you jinxed him. Aw, you jinxed him.

]]> By: mmayes http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/718/comment-page-1#comment-5088 mmayes Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:08:14 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=718#comment-5088 Click through to see the list of decision-less starts and then look at John D'Acquisto's game log from 1977. He had 10 starts in a row without a decision....and only pitched 24 2/3 innings!! He had one 5 inning stint and another 6 inning stint and everything else was much less. How his teams bailed him out time after time when he buried them in the first or second inning was amazing. I find that type of incompetence amazing, but find even more amazing the concrete example of the dugout saying, "We'll pick you up!" Click through to see the list of decision-less starts and then look at John D'Acquisto's game log from 1977. He had 10 starts in a row without a decision....and only pitched 24 2/3 innings!! He had one 5 inning stint and another 6 inning stint and everything else was much less. How his teams bailed him out time after time when he buried them in the first or second inning was amazing.

I find that type of incompetence amazing, but find even more amazing the concrete example of the dugout saying, "We'll pick you up!"

]]> By: Raphy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/718/comment-page-1#comment-5070 Raphy Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:06:51 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=718#comment-5070 I'm sorry that you did not find this stat interesting. I was certainly not trying to justify the use of this tool. I was looking into Redding because, as I mentioned a week or two ago he was (and is) the leader this season in terms of starting games in which his team has won. I thought that this was interesting. Then I wondered why it was that Redding had won so few games, if his team has won so many of his starts. I then discovered his consecutive no decision streak. I thought that this was interesting as well. After that I began to wonder how it was that Redding had so many no-decisions. It was then that I noticed that he had been remarkably consistent in his mediocrity in terms of innings pitched. This was not because of a predetermined measure or because of whatever comfort people seem to have in whole numbers. It was because this is what Redding had actually done. If this streak had happened a year ago it wouldn't have interested me. If three other people had done this, it wouldn't have interested me. However, Redding is the middle of this streak now, and no one ever has been in the middle of such a streak. This I do find interesting. I'm sorry that you did not find this stat interesting. I was certainly not trying to justify the use of this tool.

I was looking into Redding because, as I mentioned a week or two ago he was (and is) the leader this season in terms of starting games in which his team has won.

I thought that this was interesting.

Then I wondered why it was that Redding had won so few games, if his team has won so many of his starts. I then discovered his consecutive no decision streak.

I thought that this was interesting as well.

After that I began to wonder how it was that Redding had so many no-decisions. It was then that I noticed that he had been remarkably consistent in his mediocrity in terms of innings pitched. This was not because of a predetermined measure or because of whatever comfort people seem to have in whole numbers. It was because this is what Redding had actually done. If this streak had happened a year ago it wouldn't have interested me. If three other people had done this, it wouldn't have interested me. However, Redding is the middle of this streak now, and no one ever has been in the middle of such a streak. This I do find interesting.

]]> By: jksesq1 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/718/comment-page-1#comment-5067 jksesq1 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:49:33 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=718#comment-5067 Not to be dismissive but when I read something like this, I have to ask: what's the point? (A) Does this help me understand the game of baseball, or (B) is it an interesting and/or cool stat? What is the significance of completing 5 to 6 1/3 innings in every start? I guess it shows some kind of perverse consistency although if that's what you're going for, why not show streaks of exactly 5 innings, or streaks of "5 to X" innings where X is a number with some significance to it? Why did you set X equal to 6.1 except to justify a use of the tool? Not to be dismissive but when I read something like this, I have to ask: what's the point? (A) Does this help me understand the game of baseball, or (B) is it an interesting and/or cool stat? What is the significance of completing 5 to 6 1/3 innings in every start? I guess it shows some kind of perverse consistency although if that's what you're going for, why not show streaks of exactly 5 innings, or streaks of "5 to X" innings where X is a number with some significance to it? Why did you set X equal to 6.1 except to justify a use of the tool?

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