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Jamie Moyer: Both ends of the spectrum

Posted by Andy on June 12, 2010

Earlier this season, Jamie Moyer became the oldest player to pitch a complete-game shutout.

Last night, he set a record equally unlikely to be broken anytime soon. Unfortunately, it was for oldest pitcher to give up 9 earned runs a game:

Rk Player Age Date Tm Opp Rslt IP H R ER BB SO HR GSc
1 Jamie Moyer 47.205 2010-06-11 PHI BOS L 2-12 1.0 9 9 9 1 1 1 -1
2 Jamie Moyer 44.240 2007-07-16 PHI LAD L 3-10 5.1 10 10 10 2 4 2 10
3 Fred Johnson 44.153 1938-08-10 SLB CLE L 6-9 9.0 16 9 9 2 3 1 20
4 Tim Wakefield 43.299 2010-05-28 BOS KCR L 5-12 3.2 12 9 9 3 1 1 -1
5 Steve Carlton 42.225 1987-08-04 MIN CAL L 3-12 4.2 11 9 9 4 1 1 3
6 Greg Maddux 42.004 2008-04-18 SDP ARI L 0-9 7.0 13 9 9 3 4 1 16
7 Sad Sam Jones 41.329 1934-06-20 CHW BOS L 9-14 6.2 17 14 12 2 3 0 -11
8 Jeff Fassero 41.216 2004-08-08 COL CIN L 7-14 3.0 11 11 11 4 2 1 -9
9 Dazzy Vance 41.190 1932-09-10 BRO CHC L 2-9 8.0 12 9 9 5 4 0 21
10 Dazzy Vance 41.077 1932-05-20 BRO NYG L 4-9 7.1 9 9 9 4 5 1 25
11 Tom Glavine 41.077 2007-06-10 NYM DET L 7-15 4.1 11 9 9 2 2 1 5
12 Roger Clemens 41.022 2003-08-26 NYY CHW L 2-13 4.2 7 9 9 4 5 4 15
13 Orlando Hernandez 40.308 2006-08-15 NYM PHI L 4-11 4.0 10 11 11 4 5 2 -1
14 Orel Hershiser 40.233 1999-05-07 NYM ARI L 7-14 4.1 9 9 9 3 2 0 8
15 Dazzy Vance 40.185 1931-09-05 (2) BRO NYG L 1-10 6.0 11 9 9 0 6 3 20
16 David Wells 40.099 2003-08-27 NYY CHW L 2-11 5.1 11 10 10 2 4 2 8
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Generated 6/12/2010.

Moyer broke his own record, but by quite a large margin of nearly 3 years.

Keep in mind that these 'records' I refer to go back to 1920, plus there's the possibility of games in the period 1940-1951 that don't show up in my searches.

Amazingly, the next oldest starter to allow 9 ER in no more than 1 inning was Orlando Hernandez at age 34 in a 2000 game.

Check out Moyer's last two starts for the Phillies:

Rk Gcar Gtm Date Tm Opp Rslt Inngs Dec DR IP H R ER BB SO HR HBP ERA BF Pit Str 2B Entered Exited
11 678 54 Jun 5 PHI SDP W,6-2 CG W(6-5) 5 9.0 7 2 2 1 1 0 0 3.98 34 98 65 2 1t start tie 9t 3 out a4
12 679 59 Jun 11 PHI @ BOS L,2-12 GS-2 L(6-6) 5 1.0 9 9 9 1 1 1 0 5.03 13 61 34 6 1b start tie 2b -2- 0 out d8
PHI 73.1 73 44 41 15 34 11 4 5.03 308
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Generated 6/12/2010.

The ERA column lists his seasonal ERA year-to-date at the conclusion of each game. It's purely psychological but it's painful to see his ERA jump from under 4 to over 4 in one game.

It can't be too often that a pitcher has back-to-back games of such extremes.

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9 Responses to “Jamie Moyer: Both ends of the spectrum”

  1. Someone noticed yesterday, when I asked if he'd set the home run record yet, that Moyer has never hit a home run in the major leagues. Obviously, he spent some time in the AL, but does he have the longest career of anyone who's never hit a homer?

  2. I wonder how many times -- if any -- Paige gave up 9 earned runs in a game. He would be the only candidate I can think of as possibly being both that old and that futile at the same time.

  3. @1
    24 seasons with no homers ties him with Jesse Orosco and Roger Clemens.

    By plate appearances he's not close. For pitchers, its Tommy Bond with 1997 PA. Modern pitchers its Don Sutton with 1559 PA.

    I don't think they would have left Satchel Paige in long enough to give up 9 runs. Phil Niekro gave up 8 runs a couple times as a 48 year old. So, that's something Moyer can look forward to.

  4. Surly Duff Says:

    It's purely psychological but it's painful to see his ERA jump from under 4 to over 4 in one game.

    I'd hate to think how much butthurt you'd suffer if it went from under 4 to over 5 in one game!

  5. In that context I meant jumping over 4 entirely. Watch your language please. I'm obliged to censor vulgarity and you're getting close.

  6. Spartan Bill Says:

    His GS was minus 1. (-1) is that the record for a [pitcher his age too?

    Also Blanton nearly finished with a neg GS today (he was +3), does anyone know if pitchers have ever had back to back neg GS's in consecutive games?

  7. Most pitchers would probably beg for the opportunity to set any records for pitching at Jamie's age.

    Any record you can still be setting at that age is a good one!

    Knowing Moyer, he's probably already forgotten it.

  8. DoubleDiamond Says:

    The Spectrum is gone. "Both ends of the Core States First Union Wachovia (and soon to be Wells Fargo) Center" is more accurate now.

    Sorry, I couldn't resist posting this.

  9. Nor I this:

    Wow! Talk about makeup.

    After the worst start of his Major League career in Boston (1 IP, 9 ER), Moyer bounces back with a beauty at Yankee Stadium.

    Just three hits -- solo homers by Cano in the second and Posada in the fifth, and an infield single by Russo in the eighth -- in eight full innings for the win. He walked one, struck out five and threw 107 pitches.

    Jamie's one win behind Roy Halladay's eight for the team lead.