Comments on: Just how old is Jamie Moyer? http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/6599 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: numbnutz http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/6599/comment-page-1#comment-24745 Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:40:15 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=6599#comment-24745 How about Pudge Rodriguez who caught Nolan Ryan's last game and Stephen Strasbergs First game!

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By: masternachos http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/6599/comment-page-1#comment-24265 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:07:14 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=6599#comment-24265 Jamie Moyer's so old he debuted before HE was even born.

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By: DavidRF http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/6599/comment-page-1#comment-23917 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 19:37:30 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=6599#comment-23917 @47
Ripken, borderline?!? I mean, he declined after 1991 and was revered more as a statesman than a player in his late 30s but he amassed loads of value from 1982-91. Check any uber-metric (WAR, WS, etc) and Ripken is sky-high. He's in easy without the streak and intangibles. You guys make me feel old because I remember the 1980s.

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By: Djibouti http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/6599/comment-page-1#comment-23895 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:28:09 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=6599#comment-23895 14 consecutive years with 20+ starts, 17 consecutive years with 18+ starts. Plus he's on track to continue both those streaks this year and maybe pitch again next year. I love this guy and hope he pitches into his 50s.

On a side note, it always seemed to me that Cal Ripken went from borderline HoFer to no doubt first ballot because of his streak and intangibles. Shouldn't Moyer be getting a similar boost from pitching for 25 years?

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By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/6599/comment-page-1#comment-23871 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:48:12 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=6599#comment-23871 In my 3 years of writing on this blog, comment #31 from Brian C is my all-time favorite.

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By: Marvin Ferguson http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/6599/comment-page-1#comment-23870 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:42:26 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=6599#comment-23870 I remember Jamie Moyer when he was a Chicago Cub. I can't say that much more about him because i don't remember anything significant about him back then. The Cubs, however did trade him which was their lost and somebody else's gain. For a 47 year old he's still kicking which is good for a pitcher. For him to face that many HOF"s dead and some still alive is a good accomplishment for a major league player. Good job, Jamie

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By: Rich http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/6599/comment-page-1#comment-23833 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 07:57:40 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=6599#comment-23833 *1987

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By: Rich http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/6599/comment-page-1#comment-23832 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 07:57:13 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=6599#comment-23832 Also, I'm disappointed that Phil Niekro was in the AL for all but 3 IP in 1986. Now THAT would have been cool. Moyer could have faced a player born in 1939 and one born in 1990 in his career.

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By: Rich http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/6599/comment-page-1#comment-23831 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 07:56:17 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=6599#comment-23831 You don't really think Canseco deserves to be in the HOF if not for steroids, do you? Past age 26, he wasn't any kind of elite player. Played 130+ games in a season just once from age 27 to the end of his career at a 125 OPS+ for that span.

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By: DavidRF http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/6599/comment-page-1#comment-23817 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 04:53:23 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=6599#comment-23817 @39
Thanks Gerry. I didn't know about those pages. I assume with no play-by-play that those are collected from complete games only? Plus they say the cut off batters that had few than 4 PA. So, given those constraints, I counted 51 HOF-ers for Waite Hoyt and 53 for Tom Zachary. Bobo Newsom only had 34 (too much AL). Dutch Leonard had 50 but he benefits from playing into the play-by-play era. In fact, it looks like he had all his CG's in the box-score era and became a reliever in the play-by-play era. That helps.

I'm not using a script, so maybe someone else knows a better way to mine those pages.

For the bb-ref era, I found that Nolan Ryan matched Gaylord Perry with 48.

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