Comments on: Adrian Beltre’s bases loaded walk http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/5584 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: TheGoof http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/5584/comment-page-1#comment-16775 Wed, 28 Apr 2010 02:18:53 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=5584#comment-16775 I was at that Tommy John game. The Yankees manhandled the Brewers, so it didn't matter. It left us Yankee fans laughing hysterically about it. What happened was that he botched the grounder, then, with the runner already going to be safe, fired it into right field. Then he cut off the throw home, Winfield's attempt to nail the lead runner, and fired it wide to the plate, scoring both runs.

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By: eorns http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/5584/comment-page-1#comment-16686 Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:17:02 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=5584#comment-16686 What a great list! It reminds me of Tommy John's famous 3-error play on 7/27/88. The play description reads: Reached on E1 (Ground Ball); Gantner Scores/Adv on E1 (throw); Leonard Scores/Adv on E1 (throw)/unER. Interestingly, he made only 1 other error that year. And in his 26 season career, he averaged 2.65 errors per YEAR!

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By: SJBlonger http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/5584/comment-page-1#comment-16633 Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:01:50 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=5584#comment-16633 No problem, Andy.

I have since discovered a bug in my routine that was excluding the NL games, and also elimimated a couple of the AL games because there were actually two errors by the same player on the play. If you think it is appropriate, I will repost the list here.

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By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/5584/comment-page-1#comment-16624 Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:17:04 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=5584#comment-16624 SJBlonger your comment had gotten spammed but Raphy just pointed it out to me and I saved it--thanks for posting the 4-base error games.

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By: SJBlonger http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/5584/comment-page-1#comment-16580 Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:19:38 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=5584#comment-16580 I don't mean to hijack the thread, but I should point out that all 10 of those four-base errors were in the American League. I also discovered that I actually attended the 1983 game, though I have no memory of Ron Kittle's blunder.

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By: SJBlonger http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/5584/comment-page-1#comment-16579 Sat, 24 Apr 2010 21:49:02 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=5584#comment-16579 For the Retrosheet period (1952-2009), I found only 10 plays that resulted in four-base errors. Of these, two were sacrifice bunts that were thrown away by the pitcher, seven were misplayed fly balls, and one was a popup down the right field line misplayed by the second baseman (the only one of the 10 that allowed three runs to score). Here are the links:

pitcher:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/DET/DET197105070.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TOR/TOR198204130.shtml

second baseman:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/KCA/KCA199108230.shtml

outfielders:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MIN/MIN196409300.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/WS2/WS2196910010.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SEA/SEA197805050.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA198208010.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MIN/MIN198309130.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/KCA/KCA198606090.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ANA/ANA200905080.shtml

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By: DoubleDiamond http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/5584/comment-page-1#comment-16575 Sat, 24 Apr 2010 19:29:04 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=5584#comment-16575 I wonder how often 4-base errors occur. I'm talking about an error in which the batter makes it all the way around as the result of an error only, not a hit (single, double, or triple) followed by an error that causes the batter to go on to score. Actually, in the play that caused me to bring this up right now, Jayson Werth against the Diamondbacks last night, there was some controversy as to whether the outfielder had held onto the ball long enough to record an out. In the end, it didn't matter much: although the play put the Phillies up 2-0 for the moment, Arizona ended up winning the game.

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