Comments on: An Oldie but a Goodie http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/5222 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Rich http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/5222/comment-page-1#comment-12766 Fri, 02 Apr 2010 06:04:27 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=5222#comment-12766 Speaking of Niekro, ESPN had him on, I want to say, two years ago. He was showing how to throw a knuckleball. It was easily the best segment I've seen on ESPN in years. He seemed like a very nice and pleasant man, and it was cool to see perhaps the best knuckler ever showing his technique.

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By: dukeofflatbush http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/5222/comment-page-1#comment-12764 Fri, 02 Apr 2010 05:18:06 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=5222#comment-12764 Some notes on Moyer:
He is one of 15 to have over 100 GS after 40.
He should become only the second pitcher to gain 100 W after 40. He is 6 shy. Neikro leads post 40 victories with 121.
Of the 15 with 100 GS after 40; nine are 300 game winners.
As far as the soft tossing Moyer extending his career because of less strain, Nolan Ryan, Roger Clemens and Randy Johnson all made over 100 post 40 starts and remained power pitchers till the end.
Not only will Moyer more than likely pass Robin Roberts' infamous HR total, but he may pass Neikro's total of post 40 HRs as well.
Moyer should pass Jack Quinn into second place in both post 40 Ws and post 40 IP.
Justin Upton, Pablo Sandoval, Jay Bruce and approximately 50 other national league batters, were not born when Moyer threw his first pitch in '86.
In 1993 both Moyer and Doc Gooden won 12 games. It was Gooden's 154 career win. For Moyer, 2 years older at 30, it was his 46th win. Gooden would win 40 more games, while Moyer would win over 210 and counting. Who would of thought that in '93?

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By: DoubleDiamond http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/5222/comment-page-1#comment-12756 Thu, 01 Apr 2010 23:29:40 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=5222#comment-12756 You posted the list just in time for P. Niekro's 71st birthday.

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By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/5222/comment-page-1#comment-12740 Thu, 01 Apr 2010 20:42:01 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=5222#comment-12740 Yeah, I noticed that too. When I wrote this post (early yesterday) the news hadn't broken about Blanton yet. It's possible the Phils might throw Kendrick in Blanton's place, on the off chance that Moyer is on some sort of throwing routine to prepare him for later in the season. Given Moyer's age and resiliency, however, I doubt it. He'll probably pitch the 3rd or 4th game of the season.

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By: Rich http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/5222/comment-page-1#comment-12738 Thu, 01 Apr 2010 20:37:21 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=5222#comment-12738 "Since he probably won't start in the first couple of weeks, he'll likely be about 47 years and 140 days old when he does start."

He certainly will start in the first couple of weeks since Blanton is now on the DL

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By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/5222/comment-page-1#comment-12734 Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:06:15 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=5222#comment-12734 I mean that Moyer's avoided injury because he doesn't throw too hard, not that you were talking out of your ass. 🙂

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By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/5222/comment-page-1#comment-12733 Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:05:47 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=5222#comment-12733 I certainly thought the same thing, JT.

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By: Johnny Twisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/5222/comment-page-1#comment-12732 Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:01:43 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=5222#comment-12732 Djibouti, I'd guess that Moyer's inability to throw very hard helps preserve his arm. I don't have much knowledge of physiatry but from what I have read, cadaver testing indicates the human arm is only capable of a certain amount of force/torque before it is damaged. Pitchers who throw 95-100 mph are coming up against the upper limit of what the arm can endure. Although Moyer may be throwing the ball as hard as he can, it still doesn't stress his arm as much. I may be talking out of my ass but that's a theory.

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By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/5222/comment-page-1#comment-12728 Thu, 01 Apr 2010 18:44:51 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=5222#comment-12728 I'm sure the Phillies wish that someone from another team would break that all-time HR allowed record. For those who do not know, Robin Roberts is the all-time leader:

Rk Player HR
1 Robin Roberts 505
2 Jamie Moyer 491
3 Fergie Jenkins 484
4 Phil Niekro 482
5 Don Sutton 472
6 Frank Tanana 448
7 Warren Spahn 434
8 Bert Blyleven 430
9 Steve Carlton 414
10 Randy Johnson 411
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 4/1/2010.

Djibouti, I don't think the PI would help you find that seasonal-streak stat you are interested in, not directly at least. A seasonal streak finder is something I put on my wishlist (and by that, I mean onto a list that Sean requested for now possible features.) I have no idea if it's in the works or not. You could use the PI to at least find the most seasons with 20+ starts and then manually go through that list to find out who did it consecutively.

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By: Djibouti http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/5222/comment-page-1#comment-12726 Thu, 01 Apr 2010 18:38:36 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=5222#comment-12726 The Moyer stat I will be watching with interest is that he's only 9 gopher balls away from being the second pitcher ever to allow 500 HRs. 15 more HRs and he's got the all-time record. Considering he hasn't allowed less than 15 in any year since '95 it's looking good.

Side note: I'm looking at Moyer's career stats and apparently he hasn't missed significant time in any season since '92. How does a starting pitcher in today's era go 16 years without a serious season-interrupting injury? Going back to '96 he's had 14 consecutive years with 20+ starts.
Ok, time to finally get that play index subscription so I can look up how many pitchers have done that.

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