Comments on: Saving The Pen http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/484 This and that about baseball stats. Fri, 08 Jan 2010 02:58:26 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/484/comment-page-1#comment-3049 Andy Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:46:44 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/484#comment-3049 I found some stats on that for Sid Fernandez, and you are most certainly right about that. I'll make a post on it. I found some stats on that for Sid Fernandez, and you are most certainly right about that. I'll make a post on it.

]]> By: kingturtle http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/484/comment-page-1#comment-3032 kingturtle Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:49:14 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/484#comment-3032 Speaking of 6 inning starting pitching, I remember how Sid Fernandez used to have the most amazing first 4 or 5 innings only to louse it up before the 6th or 7th. I remember thinking he'd be Cy Young if games were only 5 innings long. Speaking of 6 inning starting pitching, I remember how Sid Fernandez used to have the most amazing first 4 or 5 innings only to louse it up before the 6th or 7th. I remember thinking he'd be Cy Young if games were only 5 innings long.

]]> By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/484/comment-page-1#comment-3004 Andy Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:11:49 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/484#comment-3004 Wow, interesting about CHW tying for the most 6+ inning starts, but having the worst record in those games. It almost makes you think they'd have been better off pulling some of their starters, except of course their record in the other 39 games was much worse. Wow, interesting about CHW tying for the most 6+ inning starts, but having the worst record in those games. It almost makes you think they'd have been better off pulling some of their starters, except of course their record in the other 39 games was much worse.

]]> By: OscarAzocar http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/484/comment-page-1#comment-3002 OscarAzocar Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:47:25 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/484#comment-3002 Team records in 2007 in games when their starter went 6 or more innings. TEAM W L % NYM 69 - 27 0.719 PHI 68 - 30 0.694 LAD 61 - 28 0.685 NYY 63 - 30 0.677 BOS 73 - 35 0.676 TOR 70 - 34 0.673 CLE 82 - 41 0.667 LAA 70 - 35 0.667 SEA 64 - 32 0.667 CHC 65 - 33 0.663 SDP 65 - 35 0.650 ATL 59 - 32 0.648 STL 55 - 32 0.632 ARI 64 - 39 0.621 DET 55 - 35 0.611 COL 58 - 40 0.592 MIL 59 - 41 0.590 FLA 43 - 30 0.589 MIN 60 - 42 0.588 PIT 58 - 42 0.580 KCR 46 - 34 0.575 OAK 58 - 44 0.569 BAL 48 - 41 0.539 HOU 55 - 47 0.539 TEX 37 - 32 0.536 TBD 53 - 46 0.535 WSN 38 - 34 0.528 SFG 53 - 48 0.525 CIN 51 - 47 0.520 CHW 62 - 61 0.504 Team records in 2007 in games when their starter went 6 or more innings.

TEAM W L %

NYM 69 - 27 0.719
PHI 68 - 30 0.694
LAD 61 - 28 0.685
NYY 63 - 30 0.677
BOS 73 - 35 0.676
TOR 70 - 34 0.673
CLE 82 - 41 0.667
LAA 70 - 35 0.667
SEA 64 - 32 0.667
CHC 65 - 33 0.663
SDP 65 - 35 0.650
ATL 59 - 32 0.648
STL 55 - 32 0.632
ARI 64 - 39 0.621
DET 55 - 35 0.611
COL 58 - 40 0.592
MIL 59 - 41 0.590
FLA 43 - 30 0.589
MIN 60 - 42 0.588
PIT 58 - 42 0.580
KCR 46 - 34 0.575
OAK 58 - 44 0.569
BAL 48 - 41 0.539
HOU 55 - 47 0.539
TEX 37 - 32 0.536
TBD 53 - 46 0.535
WSN 38 - 34 0.528
SFG 53 - 48 0.525
CIN 51 - 47 0.520
CHW 62 - 61 0.504

]]> By: tomd http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/484/comment-page-1#comment-3001 tomd Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:26:48 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/484#comment-3001 Correlation is .257 which is pretty low. 1.0 would mean there is a perfect positive correlation while -1.0 would mean there is a perfect negative correlation. .26 means there is a positive relationship but not very strong. Things like bullpen strength, runs created and your point about this measuring long starts not necessarily quality starts are explantions. Look at the White Sox at 123- they only won 72 games. The Yankees, Nationals and Rangers were the only teams that won more games than they had games that their starter made it to the sixth. Correlation is .257 which is pretty low. 1.0 would mean there is a perfect positive correlation while -1.0 would mean there is a perfect negative correlation. .26 means there is a positive relationship but not very strong. Things like bullpen strength, runs created and your point about this measuring long starts not necessarily quality starts are explantions. Look at the White Sox at 123- they only won 72 games. The Yankees, Nationals and Rangers were the only teams that won more games than they had games that their starter made it to the sixth.

]]> By: David in Toledo http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/484/comment-page-1#comment-2996 David in Toledo Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:10:28 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/484#comment-2996 It would be interesting to correlate this column with the team's won-loss record. I know New York Mets fans were beside themselves because their team was trying for the playoffs while ranking 20th. If you have a really deep and strong bullpen (LAD?) maybe you can overcome this handicap, but of course that wasn't the 2007 Mets. It would be interesting to correlate this column with the team's won-loss record. I know New York Mets fans were beside themselves because their team was trying for the playoffs while ranking 20th. If you have a really deep and strong bullpen (LAD?) maybe you can overcome this handicap, but of course that wasn't the 2007 Mets.

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