Comments on: Best starting pitcher, 1982-1985 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/483 This and that about baseball stats. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:57:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: OscarAzocar http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/483/comment-page-1#comment-3071 OscarAzocar Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:06:57 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/483#comment-3071 Answer to #6: Tim Lollar. http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/u4UJ Answer to #6: Tim Lollar.
http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/u4UJ

]]> By: wboenig2 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/483/comment-page-1#comment-3066 wboenig2 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:00:29 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/483#comment-3066 Playing on the same theme -- effective but underrated pitchers over a (recent) four-year span: Check out Teddy Higuera from 1985-1988. Playing on the same theme -- effective but underrated pitchers over a (recent) four-year span: Check out Teddy Higuera from 1985-1988.

]]> By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/483/comment-page-1#comment-3056 Andy Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:55:02 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/483#comment-3056 Oscar, no---but I'll tell you that I believe Dave Stieb once contacted Sean regarding his salary info posted on his page, so it's just possible that he reads this blog. (I'm not fooling myself here--it's just a possibility.) But if so, and even if not, I like to get names right. Oscar, no---but I'll tell you that I believe Dave Stieb once contacted Sean regarding his salary info posted on his page, so it's just possible that he reads this blog. (I'm not fooling myself here--it's just a possibility.) But if so, and even if not, I like to get names right.

]]> By: OscarAzocar http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/483/comment-page-1#comment-3055 OscarAzocar Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:21:21 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/483#comment-3055 Andy: Do you really want me to repost with the corrected spelling? Trivia: From 1982-1985 which pitcher had the most starts of 7+ innings and 2 or less hits? Andy: Do you really want me to repost with the corrected spelling?

Trivia: From 1982-1985 which pitcher had the most starts of 7+ innings and 2 or less hits?

]]> By: Johnny Twisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/483/comment-page-1#comment-3053 Johnny Twisto Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:56:25 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/483#comment-3053 Soto had a very nice run there, but I don't think there's any way you can pick him over Stieb for that period. You left out the leaders in ERA+, where Stieb blows away every other starter. He's at 148, Soto at 120. Combine that with Stieb being #1 in IP, #5 in W, and having solid K totals -- he's gotta be the pick. Soto had a very nice run there, but I don't think there's any way you can pick him over Stieb for that period. You left out the leaders in ERA+, where Stieb blows away every other starter. He's at 148, Soto at 120. Combine that with Stieb being #1 in IP, #5 in W, and having solid K totals -- he's gotta be the pick.

]]> By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/483/comment-page-1#comment-3052 Andy Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:49:32 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/483#comment-3052 Well, I have no problem with Stieb being the consensus pick for best pitcher 1982-1985. I have mentioned on previous posts that he is a much better pitcher than how he is remembered, and if he'd been just slightly luckier to have had a couple of his very-near-misses turn into no-hitters, such that he had 2 or 3 in his career instead of 1, he'd be remembered for the great pitcher he was. Unfortunately, I don't know who this "Steib" is you are talking about. I only know "Stieb". Well, I have no problem with Stieb being the consensus pick for best pitcher 1982-1985. I have mentioned on previous posts that he is a much better pitcher than how he is remembered, and if he'd been just slightly luckier to have had a couple of his very-near-misses turn into no-hitters, such that he had 2 or 3 in his career instead of 1, he'd be remembered for the great pitcher he was.

Unfortunately, I don't know who this "Steib" is you are talking about. I only know "Stieb".

]]> By: OscarAzocar http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/483/comment-page-1#comment-3051 OscarAzocar Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:13:14 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/483#comment-3051 Sorry, I forgot about the HTML quirks. Here's the post: I ran a couple of things through the game finder. Most starts in that time period that were: great (7+ inn, r less than or equal to 2) http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/9F62 1. Steib 66 2. Soto 61 3. Morris 58 dominant (8+ inn, r less than or equal to 1) http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/sGGJ 1. Steib 33 2. Valenzuela 32 3. Gooden 27 (In half the time!) 4. Soto 26 Sorry, I forgot about the HTML quirks. Here's the post:

I ran a couple of things through the game finder.

Most starts in that time period that were:

great (7+ inn, r less than or equal to 2) http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/9F62
1. Steib 66
2. Soto 61
3. Morris 58

dominant (8+ inn, r less than or equal to 1) http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/sGGJ
1. Steib 33
2. Valenzuela 32
3. Gooden 27 (In half the time!)
4. Soto 26

]]> By: OscarAzocar http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/483/comment-page-1#comment-3050 OscarAzocar Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:11:34 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/483#comment-3050 I ran a couple of things through the game finder. Most starts in that time period that were: great (7+ inn, r I ran a couple of things through the game finder.

Most starts in that time period that were:

great (7+ inn, r

]]> By: OscarAzocar http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/483/comment-page-1#comment-3048 OscarAzocar Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:18:21 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/483#comment-3048 You left John Tudor off your list of strong candidates. Also Candeleria, and Adujar deserve some consideration. In my eyes Steib is the clear winner. Among starting pitchers with at least 100 starts in that time frame: He led in OPS+ (Soto is 2), ERA+ (Soto is 4), and Quality Start% (Soto is 2). He's tied for third in shutouts (Soto is 25). Just for kicks I ran the Average game score for 100+ start pitchers from that time. Soto is 1 and Steib 2. http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/n3zc You left John Tudor off your list of strong candidates. Also Candeleria, and Adujar deserve some consideration.

In my eyes Steib is the clear winner. Among starting pitchers with at least 100 starts in that time frame: He led in OPS+ (Soto is 2), ERA+ (Soto is 4), and Quality Start% (Soto is 2). He's tied for third in shutouts (Soto is 25).

Just for kicks I ran the Average game score for 100+ start pitchers from that time. Soto is 1 and Steib 2. http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/n3zc

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