Comments on: Randy Johnson facts http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4100 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: SJBlonger http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4100/comment-page-1#comment-10641 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 01:47:03 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=4100#comment-10641 In the pantheon of sloppy no-hitters we have:

14 baserunners, Barber/Miller (1967-04-30), 52nd on Barber's list by gamescore
11 baserunners, Jim Maloney (10 inn., 12 K), 5th on Maloney's list
11 baserunners, Odom/Barrios, Odom only 5 innings, so I didn't bother checking
10 baserunners, A.J. Burnett, 4th on his list
9 baserunners, Dock Ellis, 1st on his list

So if you'll forgive Steve Barber for not getting the last out (and remember, there was an error on the last batter he faced in the 9th), then he might win this challenge among modern players.

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By: badenjr http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4100/comment-page-1#comment-10620 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:51:54 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=4100#comment-10620 I'm not sure what the definition of an "official" no-hitter is, but pitchers who threw no-hitters in rain-shortened games will have their no-hitter show up lower on their personal list. Mike McCormick recorded a game score of 68 with a 5 inning no-hitter in 1959, and that was only tied for 73rd on his list.

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By: howie http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4100/comment-page-1#comment-10617 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:08:53 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=4100#comment-10617 one of his greatest stats is that he came 11 K's short of breaking Ryan's single season strikeout record (383), but did so pitching 76 1/3 less innings in 2001.

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By: SJBlonger http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4100/comment-page-1#comment-10613 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:48:43 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=4100#comment-10613 Young and Ryan are good guesses to Andy's poser, but JGS has the right idea. What you need to look for is pitchers with really bad no-hitters. Steve Barber's 8.2 innings of the disastrous 2-1 lost no-hitter renders a game score of 71, which is the 52nd best start on his list. I can't get to my list of really bad no-hitters at the moment, but if you remember a good one, go for it.

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By: DoubleDiamond http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4100/comment-page-1#comment-10612 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:19:16 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=4100#comment-10612 I remember Johnson always doing very well against the Phillies (or the Phillies doing very poorly against Johnson), but I don't see any games against them in that list of 27 games. Maybe it's because the Phillies knew to sit their lefthanded hitters who tended to struggle against lefthanded pitchers whenever the Big Unit pitched against them.

Of course, the best memory of Johnson pitching against someone in a Phillies uniform has to be John Kruk in the 1993 All Star Game!

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By: Ian W. http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4100/comment-page-1#comment-10611 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 02:28:57 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=4100#comment-10611 Randy Johnson never tipped his pitches. He just threw and the ball knew where it was supposed to go.

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By: kingturtle http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4100/comment-page-1#comment-10610 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 01:26:02 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=4100#comment-10610 yet another reason to love rickey henderson. obviously he figured out he didn't have a prayer to get a hit (much less make contact) - so he worked the count over and over, and would up with an extremely respectable .388 OBP, a full .270 over his .119 BA.

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By: Atlas http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4100/comment-page-1#comment-10607 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 23:05:30 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=4100#comment-10607 Randy should have had 6 Cy Young awards; he was robbed in '04.

And I like the idea of "Chuck Norris" style baseball "facts".

Randy Johnson was so good at striking out batters he often struck out the man on deck, pinch runners and the opposing team's radio announcer.

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By: tomepp http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4100/comment-page-1#comment-10604 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 22:11:32 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=4100#comment-10604 jksesq1: Don't forget about Steve Carlton in your list of all-time great lefties. While his career ERA+ and WL% numbers may be just a tad behind the pitchers you mentioned, his 4 Cy Young awards (2nd most by a lefty behind the Big Unit), 4136 Ks (also 2nd most by a lefty behind RJ), 329 Wins (2nd most by a lefty behind Spahn), 709 Games Started (most by a lefty), and 24 seasons played (most by a LHSP, perhaps?) have to count for something. Personally, I would rank Carlton ahead of Spahn for 3rd all-time LHSP career.

Steve Carlton was "THE pitcher" for me growing up, being left-handed myself and living to the greater Philadelphia area in 1970's. The very first MLB game I attended was Carlton vs. Seaver at the Vet in the spring of 1972 – Lefty's first year with the Phils. (I was a big Mets fan, and Tom Terrific was my second favorite pitcher.) The Mets won that game with a pair of runs off Lefty in the late innings (8th or 9th, I think). The first game I saw at Shea was a Carlton-Seaver rematch in early September that year. Seaver and the Mets won again with a late-inning run. If memory serves, the score was 1-0 or 2-1 – a real pitcher’s duel. That game was also the first time I saw in person another favorite of mine pitching – Tug McGraw – who saved the game for Seaver. I think Carlton pitched CGs in both games, but I may be in error on that. (I should head to the game logs and look those games up…)

Incidentally, Carlton, not Grove, is currently "the Lefty" when using the b-r search engine.

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By: Djibouti http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4100/comment-page-1#comment-10600 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 21:32:31 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=4100#comment-10600 One of the more impressive Randy Johnson tidbits (not quite on the level of the exploding bird) is that he won 3 games in the '01 series including the relief appearance in game 7 the night after pitching game 6. Sure a pitcher winning 3 games in one WS is a bit of a fluky stat, but it's something we may never see again.

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