Comments on: Best Total Bases / Outs Made ratios http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4005 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Yankeefan25 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4005/comment-page-1#comment-10485 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:10:36 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=4005#comment-10485 Barry Bonds. Barry Bonds is on most of the all time greats lists. Including most HR in a career with 762. Steroids destroyed his baseball career so he does not deserve to be on this list but it depends what year this happened because it was only certain years when Mr.Bonds took HGH (human growth hormones). What years did Mr.Bonds take said steroids?

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By: dave http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4005/comment-page-1#comment-10450 Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:48:35 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=4005#comment-10450 People who use this site constantly (like me) can't start their own sections?
It can only be done by 3 or 4 people?
People that pay for this site should be able to have total access to all if it and be able to utilize all of the functions, eh?

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By: ollie1000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4005/comment-page-1#comment-10449 Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:44:35 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=4005#comment-10449 Ruth was +108 in '21 which was the most, how about trying the Bill James number where you add all bases but singles (secondary average?), though I'm not sure what it would mean?

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By: DavidRF http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4005/comment-page-1#comment-10448 Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:16:04 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=4005#comment-10448 "TB per out is partway to the old Tom Boswell stat Total Average, which was Bases per Out (including BB, HBP, SB)."

Yes. And if you figure that most of the outs (not all) are counted AB-H, then TB/Out simplifies to TB/(AB-H) = SLG/(1-AVG).

Technically walks are completely ignored here, but there aren't many low-BB datapoints on the list. I suppose a guy like Tony Oliva in 1971 led the league in both AVG and SLG with only 25 walks but that's not common.

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By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4005/comment-page-1#comment-10447 Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:42:23 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=4005#comment-10447 I'm not sure if this blog allows readers to post HTML enough to post a full table. We bloggers can do it, but maybe you can't here. Sorry.

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By: dave http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4005/comment-page-1#comment-10446 Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:36:51 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=4005#comment-10446 No table...no chart...no sense

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By: dave http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4005/comment-page-1#comment-10445 Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:36:11 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=4005#comment-10445 This is what I get doing it that way:

Year
Age
Tm
Lg
G
PA
AB
R
H
2B
3B
HR
RBI

1986
20
CLE
AL
5
16
14
3
5
2
0
1
4

1987
21
CLE
AL
38
137
125
14
27
9
1
2
13

1988
22
CLE
AL
73
236
211
23
46
5
1
2
21

1989
23
PIT
NL
78
303
271
33
70
13
3
2
27

1990
24
PIT
NL
159
696
583
93
148
28
7
7
52

1991
25
PIT
NL
157
697
608
96
164
32
8
16
67

1992
26
PIT
NL
159
712
632
87
167
36
6
9
55

1993
27
PIT
NL
154
701
604
102
187
32
9
9
51

1994
28
PIT
NL
110
487
424
68
117
35
4
9
45

1995
29
PIT
NL
138
593
530
79
139
28
4
13
55

1996
30
PIT
NL
151
598
527
65
132
29
3
13
71

1997
31
KCR
AL
153
660
573
89
167
28
3
21
92

1998
32
ARI
NL
155
645
549
79
138
29
5
20
67

1999
33
ARI
NL
151
688
589
132
170
32
6
38
112

2000
34
ARI
NL
149
649
565
87
151
30
6
18
68

2001
35
ARI
NL
129
509
428
59
106
24
1
13
46

2002
36
ARI
NL
32
56
49
3
8
1
0
2
11

2003
37
NYM
NL
72
142
116
11
21
1
0
0
3

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original TableGenerated 12/22/2009.

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By: JohnnyTwisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4005/comment-page-1#comment-10444 Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:22:40 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=4005#comment-10444 Interesting that the worst OPS of any players on the second list are just above 1.000, and those are the players whose ratios of TB:outs are just above 1.0 as well. Obviously there's a very high correlation between the two numbers. TB per out is partway to the old Tom Boswell stat Total Average, which was Bases per Out (including BB, HBP, SB).

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By: JohnnyTwisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4005/comment-page-1#comment-10443 Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:18:57 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=4005#comment-10443 Some of those older seasons might not qualify because GIDP were not counted until the 1930s. However, reaching on an error should not count as an out; B-R counts ROE but does not subtract them from the outs total, and there were more errors back then.

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By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/4005/comment-page-1#comment-10441 Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:10:21 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=4005#comment-10441 Click SHARE, then modify the table as you like, then within the yellow box click on html table, and choose the specific format you like. Copy and paste.

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