Comments on: AL Cy Young voting results http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/354 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Stat of the Day » AL Cy Young: Real voting vs. SOTD reader voting http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/354/comment-page-1#comment-2177 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:22:42 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/354#comment-2177 [...] SOTD reader votes are back here and you folks did a great job predicting the finish. Readers submitted 32 ballots but the real [...]

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By: vonhayes http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/354/comment-page-1#comment-1386 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:31:07 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/354#comment-1386 Cool posts, fellas. Though I think Doc Gooden should have won the NL CY Young in '84.

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By: kingturtle http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/354/comment-page-1#comment-1385 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:20:26 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/354#comment-1385 Shoot Andy, I didn't mean to steal your fire. I should have read deeper into this thread and more closely.

I love this blog. And I appreciate all your dedication and hard work.

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By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/354/comment-page-1#comment-1384 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:32:09 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/354#comment-1384 As I wrote above, I was going to post the details on this in a new post today, but kingturtle went ahead and did it. For those curious, there's an easy way to find years with just one 20-game winner in one league. Go to Pitching Season Finder, set the team to AL (or NL), set Wins >= 20, and then sort by Years w/ players. Then, you can find all the years with just 1 player.

When I did the research for this and wrote my draft article last night (again, thanks Oliver,) I found that roughly half the time, the only guy who won 20 undeservedly won the CY, whereas the other half of the time he either deserved it and won, or didn't deserve it and didn't win. A couple times, a 20-game winner lost out to a reliever, interestingly.

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By: kingturtle http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/354/comment-page-1#comment-1381 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:48:28 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/354#comment-1381 I counted 13 times that there was only one 20-game winner on a Cy Young Award ballot. Seven times, that pitcher did not win the award (1973 NL, 1984 AL, 1984 NL, 1989 NL, 1997 NL, 2003 NL, 2004 NL). Three times that pitcher won the award, but deserved it anyway (1982 NL, 1996 NL, 1999 AL). Three times that pitcher won the award probably because of reaching that 20 win threshold (1993 AL, 1998 NL, 2005 AL). So the good news is, sportswriters are pretty smart. Only 3 out of 13 times has 20 wins helped to tip the balance.

Here's some of the data:

In 1973 the NL had only one 20 game winner, Ron Bryant with 24 wins, but he came in 3rd in the voting. Seaver won the voting, but only won 19 games - FIVE behind Bryant.

In 1982, Steve Carlton was the only NL 20 game winner (with 23). He had 4 wins more than the next guy, and Carlton won the award, deservedly.

In 1984 both leagues had a sole 20 game winner, Joaquin Andujar (NL) and Mike Boddicker (AL), each with 20 wins exactly. They each placed 4th in their respective voting. The NL award deservedly went to 16-1 Rick Sutcliffe; the AL award went to Willie Hernandez.

In 1989, the NL had only one 20 game winner, Mike Scott with 20 wins. Scott finished 2nd in the voting behind Mark Davis.

In 1993, Jack McDowell was the only AL 20 game winner, with 22 wins. He had 3 more wins than the next guy, and that probably clinched an otherwise close race.

In 1996 John Smoltz was the only NL 20 game winner, with 24 wins, which was 6 more than the next guy! Smoltz won the prize.

In 1997 Denny Neagle was the only NL 20 game winner, with 20 wins. Neagle came in third in the voting behind Pedro Martinez and Greg Maddux.

In 1998 Tom Glavine was the only NL 20 game winner, with 20 wins. That 20th win might have tipped the balance.

In 1999 Pedro Martinez was the only AL 20 game winner, with 23 wins. With 5 more wins than the next guy, Martinez won the award, deservedly.

In 2003 Russ Ortiz was the only NL 20 game winner, with 21. Although he had 3 more wins than the next guys, he finished 4th in the voting. Eric Gagne won.

In 2004 Roy Oswalt was the only NL 20 game winner, with 20 wins. Oswalt placed 3rd behind Roger Clemens and Randy Johnson.

In 2005 Bartolo Colon was the only AL 20 game winner, with 21 wins. His win total probably tipped the balance to give him the award.

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By: vonhayes http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/354/comment-page-1#comment-1379 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:16:20 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/354#comment-1379 Actually, the league's sole 20-game winner has come up short in Cy Young voting more often than I would have guessed.

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By: vonhayes http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/354/comment-page-1#comment-1378 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:10:58 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/354#comment-1378 The opposite happened in 1973 in the NL.

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By: vonhayes http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/354/comment-page-1#comment-1377 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:08:55 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/354#comment-1377 The first time it happened was 1982!

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By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/354/comment-page-1#comment-1344 Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:47:21 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/354#comment-1344 I will post the answer, #7, tomorrow (Friday.)

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By: damthesehigheels http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/354/comment-page-1#comment-1343 Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:22:07 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/354#comment-1343 i would hope valverde didnt get any votes! he pitches in the NL!!

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