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		<title>By: SJBlonger</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/3434/comment-page-1#comment-9910</link>
		<dc:creator>SJBlonger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used the Lahman database (which includes birth and death years) to attempt to answer my earlier question.

The result:
Jay Dahl was 19 years, 6 months, 14 days.
Will Smalley was 20 years, 3 months, 14 days.
Gus Williams could have been younger than Dahl.  He was born in 1870, date unknown, and died April 18, 1890.

Of course, there are many others for whom no birth or death date is known.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used the Lahman database (which includes birth and death years) to attempt to answer my earlier question.</p>
<p>The result:<br />
Jay Dahl was 19 years, 6 months, 14 days.<br />
Will Smalley was 20 years, 3 months, 14 days.<br />
Gus Williams could have been younger than Dahl.  He was born in 1870, date unknown, and died April 18, 1890.</p>
<p>Of course, there are many others for whom no birth or death date is known.</p>
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		<title>By: DoubleDiamond</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/3434/comment-page-1#comment-9889</link>
		<dc:creator>DoubleDiamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seeing both a 1918 and a 1942 death on Raphy&#039;s list, the first thought that came to mind were WWI and WWII. I was close with the one in 1918 - according to the Wikipedia-like Bullpen part of this site, Newt Halliday died of pneumonia while serving stateside in the Navy. However, Al Montgomery, the one who died in 1942, was killed in a car accident while heading north from spring training.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing both a 1918 and a 1942 death on Raphy's list, the first thought that came to mind were WWI and WWII. I was close with the one in 1918 - according to the Wikipedia-like Bullpen part of this site, Newt Halliday died of pneumonia while serving stateside in the Navy. However, Al Montgomery, the one who died in 1942, was killed in a car accident while heading north from spring training.</p>
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		<title>By: Raphy</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/3434/comment-page-1#comment-9875</link>
		<dc:creator>Raphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rico, I can&#039;t give you a definitive answer where Adenhart ranks, but there are some guys on this list that were younger than him.
http://bbref.com/pi/shareit/y2YMY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rico, I can't give you a definitive answer where Adenhart ranks, but there are some guys on this list that were younger than him.<br />
<a href="http://bbref.com/pi/shareit/y2YMY" rel="nofollow">http://bbref.com/pi/shareit/y2YMY</a></p>
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		<title>By: rico petrocelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>rico petrocelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Adenhart the second youngest at 22?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Adenhart the second youngest at 22?</p>
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		<title>By: Baseball-Reference Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fun With Lineups</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/3434/comment-page-1#comment-9854</link>
		<dc:creator>Baseball-Reference Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fun With Lineups</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: statboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>statboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, Wikipedia says &quot;At the age of 19, Dahl is the youngest at death of any player in major league history.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, Wikipedia says "At the age of 19, Dahl is the youngest at death of any player in major league history."</p>
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		<title>By: DavidRF</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/3434/comment-page-1#comment-9852</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidRF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jksesq1, this has been explained to you so many times.  You are arguing against something that nobody believes.

It doesn&#039;t matter if a player hits a HR in a particular park and always strikes out everywhere else.  What matters is how many runs it takes to win a game there.  Runs in pitchers parks have more value because they add more wins.

But if you want to keep beating up your strawman, go right ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jksesq1, this has been explained to you so many times.  You are arguing against something that nobody believes.</p>
<p>It doesn't matter if a player hits a HR in a particular park and always strikes out everywhere else.  What matters is how many runs it takes to win a game there.  Runs in pitchers parks have more value because they add more wins.</p>
<p>But if you want to keep beating up your strawman, go right ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: jksesq1</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/3434/comment-page-1#comment-9851</link>
		<dc:creator>jksesq1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article, thank you.

Jim Wynn is the textbook example of why we shouldn&#039;t give credence to generalized PF&#039;s.  Wynn&#039;s career OPS at the Astrodome was .840, compared to only .781 at other parks.  (Of the 59 point difference, 33 was SA and 26 was OBA, so he both slugged and reached base considerably better in the Astrodome).  In his best season, 1969, his OPS was *189* points better at home, and the following season, his OPS was 102 points better at home, despite &quot;home&#039;s&quot; PF of 94.  And, he continued to hit well at the Astrodome even after leaving the Astros, posting OPS&#039;s over 1.000 there in both 1974 and 1975, So, while the numbers suggest that the &#039;Dome was a pitchers park on average, it looks like Jimmy never got the memo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article, thank you.</p>
<p>Jim Wynn is the textbook example of why we shouldn't give credence to generalized PF's.  Wynn's career OPS at the Astrodome was .840, compared to only .781 at other parks.  (Of the 59 point difference, 33 was SA and 26 was OBA, so he both slugged and reached base considerably better in the Astrodome).  In his best season, 1969, his OPS was *189* points better at home, and the following season, his OPS was 102 points better at home, despite "home's" PF of 94.  And, he continued to hit well at the Astrodome even after leaving the Astros, posting OPS's over 1.000 there in both 1974 and 1975, So, while the numbers suggest that the 'Dome was a pitchers park on average, it looks like Jimmy never got the memo.</p>
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		<title>By: DoubleDiamond</title>
		<link>http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/3434/comment-page-1#comment-9850</link>
		<dc:creator>DoubleDiamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to a book by Rob Trucks (a relative of long-time major leaguer Virgil Trucks) that contains interviews with pitchers who appeared in fewer than 50 big league innings, one of the interviewees, Larry Yellen, was supposed to be the starter in this game, not Dahl. However, Yellen is Jewish, the game was on Yom Kippur (Jewish holidays start at sundown, and the following day was actually Yom Kippur), and his mother didn&#039;t want him to play that night. So he didn&#039;t.

I&#039;ve wondered a few times over the years if Jay Dahl was the youngest guy with a major league appearance to die. Perhaps pre-1900 or even in the early part of the 1900s, someone may have died of some disease (such as pneumonia) that is curable today but was practically a death sentence then. Or maybe in an industrial accident as a result of having to work in the off-season.

Sonny Jackson is a favorite of mine because he&#039;s one of what seems like a very small number of players to have come out of populous Montgomery County, MD, a suburb of Washington, DC. He was actually born in DC, but he graduated from Montgomery Blair High School in Silver Spring with no &quot;s&quot; at the end, MD. True, it&#039;s a cold climate place, but so is Montgomery County, PA, a suburb of Philadelphia, which has similar population and demographics, which has produced a lot of major leaguers, including at least one Hall of Fame player (Reggie Jackson) and at least one Hall of Fame manager (Tom Lasorda). Perhaps Montgomery County, PA, has sent more guys to the majors because Philadelphia has more of a baseball town over the years. In Montgomery County, MD, all of the public high schools are part of the same school district, and maybe baseball has not been as competitive there over the years. In Montgomery County, PA, virtually every public high school is in a different school district (the one exception coming to mind right now being Lower Merion and Harriton), and maybe there&#039;s more of a rivalry with schools outside the district.

But maybe things will change with the arrival of the Nationals. Prospect Justin Maxwell&#039;s birthplace is listed as Olney, MD, probably in Montgomery General Hospital. His hometown was listed in a Nationals&#039; scorecard I saw somewhere as Bethesda, MD, also in Montgomery County. While this could be his home while playing for the Nationals, he was currently in the minors at the time. Another thing pointing to his coming from suburban Maryland is that he played for the University of Maryland. His baseball-reference.com entry does not show a high school yet. Jim Riggleman, who finished this past season as the team&#039;s manager, also comes from Montgomery County, MD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to a book by Rob Trucks (a relative of long-time major leaguer Virgil Trucks) that contains interviews with pitchers who appeared in fewer than 50 big league innings, one of the interviewees, Larry Yellen, was supposed to be the starter in this game, not Dahl. However, Yellen is Jewish, the game was on Yom Kippur (Jewish holidays start at sundown, and the following day was actually Yom Kippur), and his mother didn't want him to play that night. So he didn't.</p>
<p>I've wondered a few times over the years if Jay Dahl was the youngest guy with a major league appearance to die. Perhaps pre-1900 or even in the early part of the 1900s, someone may have died of some disease (such as pneumonia) that is curable today but was practically a death sentence then. Or maybe in an industrial accident as a result of having to work in the off-season.</p>
<p>Sonny Jackson is a favorite of mine because he's one of what seems like a very small number of players to have come out of populous Montgomery County, MD, a suburb of Washington, DC. He was actually born in DC, but he graduated from Montgomery Blair High School in Silver Spring with no "s" at the end, MD. True, it's a cold climate place, but so is Montgomery County, PA, a suburb of Philadelphia, which has similar population and demographics, which has produced a lot of major leaguers, including at least one Hall of Fame player (Reggie Jackson) and at least one Hall of Fame manager (Tom Lasorda). Perhaps Montgomery County, PA, has sent more guys to the majors because Philadelphia has more of a baseball town over the years. In Montgomery County, MD, all of the public high schools are part of the same school district, and maybe baseball has not been as competitive there over the years. In Montgomery County, PA, virtually every public high school is in a different school district (the one exception coming to mind right now being Lower Merion and Harriton), and maybe there's more of a rivalry with schools outside the district.</p>
<p>But maybe things will change with the arrival of the Nationals. Prospect Justin Maxwell's birthplace is listed as Olney, MD, probably in Montgomery General Hospital. His hometown was listed in a Nationals' scorecard I saw somewhere as Bethesda, MD, also in Montgomery County. While this could be his home while playing for the Nationals, he was currently in the minors at the time. Another thing pointing to his coming from suburban Maryland is that he played for the University of Maryland. His baseball-reference.com entry does not show a high school yet. Jim Riggleman, who finished this past season as the team's manager, also comes from Montgomery County, MD.</p>
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		<title>By: SJBlonger</title>
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		<dc:creator>SJBlonger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a tragic story about Jay Dahl.  Is he the only major leaguer to die before he reached 20?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a tragic story about Jay Dahl.  Is he the only major leaguer to die before he reached 20?</p>
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