Comments on: Finishing a game without facing a batter http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1875 This and that about baseball stats. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:57:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: tomepp http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1875/comment-page-1#comment-7392 tomepp Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:57:43 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=1875#comment-7392 Andy: A delayed "thank you" for posting this list. I was away last week without Internet access (whitewater rafting, rock climbing, hiking) and am just now getting caught up with my "recreational reading". Obviously my memory was incomplete or incorrect, but I'll slog through the list and try to find the game to which I was referring (it was by a position player, so that should help; it's also possible that he did not finish the game...) Thanks! Andy:

A delayed "thank you" for posting this list. I was away last week without Internet access (whitewater rafting, rock climbing, hiking) and am just now getting caught up with my "recreational reading". Obviously my memory was incomplete or incorrect, but I'll slog through the list and try to find the game to which I was referring (it was by a position player, so that should help; it's also possible that he did not finish the game...)

Thanks!

]]> By: 42Dodgers http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1875/comment-page-1#comment-7191 42Dodgers Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:51:28 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=1875#comment-7191 I'm wondering how many of these games include not just 0 batters faced, but 0 pitches thrown (as happened 7/7 with the Rockies Alan Embree), with the pitcher earning the win. I'm wondering how many of these games include not just 0 batters faced, but 0 pitches thrown (as happened 7/7 with the Rockies Alan Embree), with the pitcher earning the win.

]]> By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1875/comment-page-1#comment-7125 Andy Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:25:23 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=1875#comment-7125 Gerry (nice to see you back, for starters), yeah that was my bad. Stanton finished pitching the bottom of the 8th, the Reds did not rally in the top of the 9th, and then there was no bottom of the 9th since the Astros were already ahead. I made a bad assumption as I was looking at the half-innings in the play-by-play that the last one of bottom of the 9th and the next-to-last one was the top of the 9th. Gerry (nice to see you back, for starters), yeah that was my bad. Stanton finished pitching the bottom of the 8th, the Reds did not rally in the top of the 9th, and then there was no bottom of the 9th since the Astros were already ahead. I made a bad assumption as I was looking at the half-innings in the play-by-play that the last one of bottom of the 9th and the next-to-last one was the top of the 9th.

]]> By: gerry http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1875/comment-page-1#comment-7124 gerry Sat, 04 Jul 2009 06:07:48 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=1875#comment-7124 The discussion of Game #6 says the Reds did not rally in the bottom of the 9th, but the game is listed as CIN @HOU, which I take to mean the Reds would have batted in the top of the 9th. Something doesn't make sense here. The discussion of Game #6 says the Reds did not rally in the bottom of the 9th, but the game is listed as CIN @HOU, which I take to mean the Reds would have batted in the top of the 9th. Something doesn't make sense here.

]]> By: amarshall http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1875/comment-page-1#comment-7123 amarshall Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:21:48 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=1875#comment-7123 I am assuming that 'Pk' is a pickoff by the pitcher, correct? However, sometimes this results in a CS & a Pk, while sometimes it is just a Pk. Also, a catcher's pickoff does not get accounted for in any of these categories. Also, when going through the game summaries, there are statements like, "MEACHAM REPLACED MAGNANTE (PITCHING); McDowell was out trying to advance to third (catcher to third)." Why isn't that a CS? Anyway, here's my summary: Called games account for 32 of these, leaving 105. Of these: Caught Stealing: 55 Pickoffs: 10 Balks (yes, the infamous "Walk off Balk"): 3 Wild Pitch: 19 Base runners out, but not in the first two categories: 12 Scored on a passed ball: 1 Scored on an error: 3 That leaves 2. The Dodgers won on Sept. 19, 1964 in the bottom of the 16th when Tommy Davis stole home! The last one a game that does not have a game log, the July 17, 1954 game at Wrigley. What can be made out from the box score is that George O'Donnell can in with one out in the ninth and the game ended on a 3-1-4-3 double play. Maybe it was the hidden ball trick? I am assuming that 'Pk' is a pickoff by the pitcher, correct? However, sometimes this results in a CS & a Pk, while sometimes it is just a Pk. Also, a catcher's pickoff does not get accounted for in any of these categories. Also, when going through the game summaries, there are statements like, "MEACHAM REPLACED
MAGNANTE (PITCHING); McDowell was out trying to advance to third (catcher to third)." Why isn't that a CS?

Anyway, here's my summary:

Called games account for 32 of these, leaving 105. Of these:

Caught Stealing: 55
Pickoffs: 10
Balks (yes, the infamous "Walk off Balk"): 3
Wild Pitch: 19
Base runners out, but not in the first two categories: 12
Scored on a passed ball: 1
Scored on an error: 3

That leaves 2. The Dodgers won on Sept. 19, 1964 in the bottom of the 16th when Tommy Davis stole home!

The last one a game that does not have a game log, the July 17, 1954 game at Wrigley. What can be made out from the box score is that George O'Donnell can in with one out in the ninth and the game ended on a 3-1-4-3 double play. Maybe it was the hidden ball trick?

]]> By: amarshall http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1875/comment-page-1#comment-7122 amarshall Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:25:05 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=1875#comment-7122 My question is, why are almost all the rain outs listed under "App,Dec" as '2-2f'? My question is, why are almost all the rain outs listed under "App,Dec" as '2-2f'?

]]> By: amarshall http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1875/comment-page-1#comment-7121 amarshall Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:23:27 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=1875#comment-7121 Benoit was announced into the game before the game was halted on account of rain. for an explanation, see the retrosheet account of the Aaron Fultz game (#20): REDS 8TH: FULTZ REPLACED FELIZ (PITCHING);; game called after 30 minute rain delay Fultz announced into game, but did not throw a pitch, so gets a game played, but not a game pitched; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Giants 4, Reds 8. Benoit was announced into the game before the game was halted on account of rain. for an explanation, see the retrosheet account of the Aaron Fultz game (#20):

REDS 8TH: FULTZ REPLACED FELIZ (PITCHING);; game called after
30 minute rain delay Fultz announced into game, but did not
throw a pitch, so gets a game played, but not a game
pitched; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Giants 4, Reds 8.

]]> By: JohnnyTwisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1875/comment-page-1#comment-7120 JohnnyTwisto Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:44:44 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=1875#comment-7120 Benoit is credited with 32 games pitched in 2005, but his gamelog shows 33 games. Benoit is credited with 32 games pitched in 2005, but his gamelog shows 33 games.

]]> By: Raphy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1875/comment-page-1#comment-7119 Raphy Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:21:45 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=1875#comment-7119 Benoit must of pitched the top of the ninth which was negated by the rain. Why then is he considered to have pitched at all? Benoit must of pitched the top of the ninth which was negated by the rain. Why then is he considered to have pitched at all?

]]> By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1875/comment-page-1#comment-7116 Andy Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:52:55 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=1875#comment-7116 Hmm that is odd. If you read the recap here: http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=250504111 Shouse was definitely on the mound when the game ended due to rain. Hmm that is odd. If you read the recap here:

http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=250504111

Shouse was definitely on the mound when the game ended due to rain.

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