Comments on: Freddy Sanchez (and Joe Mauer) 2006 batting title http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/186 This and that about baseball stats. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:57:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Atlas http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/186/comment-page-1#comment-305 Atlas Fri, 17 Aug 2007 00:56:17 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/186#comment-305 Randy Johnson should have had Clemens' Cy Young in 2004. He had better stats right across the board in everything but wins and losses. Randy Johnson should have had Clemens' Cy Young in 2004. He had better stats right across the board in everything but wins and losses.

]]> By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/186/comment-page-1#comment-304 Andy Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:31:29 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/186#comment-304 That Palmeiro Gold Glove was nonsense. To me, it completely invalidated the whole Gold Glove system. Before that, I was willing to accept the fact that players won based more on reputation than on actual performance, and that incumbent winners usually had to be ousted by a young, flashy player to stop getting the award. But Palmeiro winning was sheer utter nonsense. Perhaps if Mike Greenwell one day gets his 1988 AL MVP award (as he has said he thinks he should, see http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1993112), somebody will get Palmeiro's GG on the same grounds. That Palmeiro Gold Glove was nonsense. To me, it completely invalidated the whole Gold Glove system. Before that, I was willing to accept the fact that players won based more on reputation than on actual performance, and that incumbent winners usually had to be ousted by a young, flashy player to stop getting the award. But Palmeiro winning was sheer utter nonsense.

Perhaps if Mike Greenwell one day gets his 1988 AL MVP award (as he has said he thinks he should, see http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1993112), somebody will get Palmeiro's GG on the same grounds.

]]> By: dustininminny http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/186/comment-page-1#comment-298 dustininminny Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:53:02 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/186#comment-298 Jeter can have Mourneau's MVP, but Johan gets Bartolo Colon's Cy Young. If we're giving awards to who actually deserved them, Rafael Palmeiro owes a 1999 Gold Glove to SOMEBODY- Mike Stanley, Jeff Conine, Darin Erstad, Paul Konerko, I don't care. Jeter can have Mourneau's MVP, but Johan gets Bartolo Colon's Cy Young. If we're giving awards to who actually deserved them, Rafael Palmeiro owes a 1999 Gold Glove to SOMEBODY- Mike Stanley, Jeff Conine, Darin Erstad, Paul Konerko, I don't care.

]]> By: Sky http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/186/comment-page-1#comment-297 Sky Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:37:20 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/186#comment-297 Yes, I totally get your point about Sanchez, and definitely agree. Really makes you wonder about the unqualified reverence people give batting champs. The line in my head between who really won the MVP and who should have won the MVP last year has already started to gray. I should be more careful ; ) Yes, I totally get your point about Sanchez, and definitely agree. Really makes you wonder about the unqualified reverence people give batting champs.

The line in my head between who really won the MVP and who should have won the MVP last year has already started to gray. I should be more careful ; )

]]> By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/186/comment-page-1#comment-296 Andy Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:59:21 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/186#comment-296 You realize Morneau actually won the MVP, right? It's only in our memories that Jeter won. The real point of my post was to show how amazingly low-value Sanchez' season was, not Mauer's. You realize Morneau actually won the MVP, right? It's only in our memories that Jeter won.

The real point of my post was to show how amazingly low-value Sanchez' season was, not Mauer's.

]]> By: Sky http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/186/comment-page-1#comment-294 Sky Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:47:06 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/186#comment-294 I'll stick up for Boggs and Mauer. Wade's OBPs during his four years on the second were all around .450 -- that's disgustingly valuable even if you only slug .480. (Compare that to Ichiro's 2001 when he batted .350 but only had an OBP of .380. That's so weak in comparison.) As for Mauer, he's a *catcher*. With a .940 OPS. Which is OBP-heavy. He was definitely more valuable than Morneau, and could have given Jeter a run for MVP with a few more PAs. I'll stick up for Boggs and Mauer. Wade's OBPs during his four years on the second were all around .450 -- that's disgustingly valuable even if you only slug .480. (Compare that to Ichiro's 2001 when he batted .350 but only had an OBP of .380. That's so weak in comparison.)

As for Mauer, he's a *catcher*. With a .940 OPS. Which is OBP-heavy. He was definitely more valuable than Morneau, and could have given Jeter a run for MVP with a few more PAs.

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