Comments on: Pitching and playing the outfield – in the same game!

By: Saves, blown saves, and position players (or PING: Cryomaniac) - OOTP Developments Forums

Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:59:53 +0000

[...] but I don't have time to follow it up at the moment. Maybe someone else could take the ball here. Stat of the Day Pitching and playing the outfield - in the same game! __________________ Dog Days Baseball: Blackwood Werewolves Last edited by TribeFanInNC : [...]

By: Saves, blown saves, and position players (or PING: Cryomaniac) - OOTP Developments Forums

Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:24:33 +0000

By: Stat of the Day » 2% of games played at 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, LF, CF, and RF, minimum 100 games

Sun, 27 Jan 2008 13:53:04 +0000

[...] This kind of versatility, assuming that the player can manage defensively, is extraordinarily valuable, in my opinion, just like pitchers who can play a little outfield. [...]

By: Stat of the Day » True Utility Players

Stat of the Day » True Utility Players — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:34:09 +0000

[...] Now find me a great relief pitcher who can also play a corner outfield position, and then you’re cooking with gas. [...]

By: Andy

Andy — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:51:08 +0000

They didn't show up because I explicitly searched only for guys who played the two position as listed above (either P and LF or P and RF.) I was looking only for guys who were pitchers and then moved to the outfield. Those "stunt" games by Halter and Sheldon don't interest me all that much since they weren't done because of any true baseball strategy.

By: duckshirt

duckshirt — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 04:32:55 +0000

Shane Halter played all 9 positions in one game for the Tigers (10/1/2000) and Scott Sheldon did it earlier that year for Texas (9/6/2000). Is it possible they didn't show up because they never recorded putouts or assists while pitching, or because they didn't bat while at that position?

By: Andy

Andy — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:56:38 +0000

Check out the crazy play-by-play from that game (taken from Retrosheet.org):

REDS 10TH: OROSCO REPLACED AGUILERA (PITCHING); Parker struck
out; ROSE BATTED FOR FRANCO; Rose singled to center; DAVIS RAN
FOR ROSE; Davis stole second; Davis stole third; Knight,
Davis, Mitchell and Soto ejected for brawl; BROWNING RAN FOR
DAVIS; Milner struck out; CARTER CHANGED POSITIONS (PLAYING 3B);
HEARN REPLACED K. MITCHELL (PLAYING C ); OROSCO CHANGED
POSITIONS (PLAYING RF); MCDOWELL REPLACED KNIGHT (PITCHING);
Rowdon grounded out (second to first); 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 1 LOB.
Mets 3, Reds 3.

REDS 11TH: Perez singled to center; Oester out on a sacrifice
bunt (third to second) [Perez to second]; Butera grounded out
(third to first); OROSCO CHANGED POSITIONS (PITCHING); MCDOWELL
CHANGED POSITIONS (PLAYING RF); Venable struck out; 0 R, 1 H, 0
E, 1 LOB. Mets 3, Reds 3.

REDS 12TH: Bell singled to third; MCDOWELL CHANGED POSITIONS
(PLAYING LF); WILSON CHANGED POSITIONS (PLAYING RF); Parker
singled to right [Bell to second]; On a bunt Willis grounded
into a double play (first to third to second) [Parker to second,
Bell out at third]; Milner flied out to center; 0 R, 2 H, 0 E, 1
LOB. Mets 3, Reds 3.

REDS 13TH: OROSCO CHANGED POSITIONS (PLAYING RF); MCDOWELL
CHANGED POSITIONS (PITCHING); WILSON CHANGED POSITIONS (PLAYING
LF); Rowdon grounded out (shortstop to first); Perez flied out
to right; Oester grounded out (second to first); 0 R, 0 H, 0 E,
0 LOB. Mets 3, Reds 3.

REDS 14TH: Butera grounded out (shortstop to first); Venable
grounded out (second to first); Bell grounded out (shortstop to
first); 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Mets 6, Reds 3.

Also, both Orosco and McDowell batted in the Mets 14th inning when the go-ahead runs were scored.

By: Andy

Andy — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:03:58 +0000

Interesting. McDowell didn't show up on either list for that game (he showed up for a different game) because he played BOTH RF and LF (and P) in the game you mention.

By: sijj

sijj — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:18:56 +0000

The july 22, 1986 game is famous(a little) because Jesse Orosco and Roger McDowell platooned pitching and outfield in the same game. They made several righty / lefty switches in the game, and played the outfield corner positions based on which batter was up.

Even as a Yankee fan this was an amazing game.