Comments on: Verlander ties 21st-century high in postseason pitches http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15826 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Timothy P. http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15826/comment-page-1#comment-171167 Sat, 15 Oct 2011 23:52:19 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15826#comment-171167 I like Jack Morris for theHoF, it's been proven he was able to pitch to game conditions.

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By: Biff http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15826/comment-page-1#comment-170831 Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:53:32 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15826#comment-170831 @40
"I'm just a straight down the middle, good solid regular American. I like to say my prayers and take my vitamins and occasionally take out full-figured gals."

So you're almost like Hulk Hogan then?

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By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15826/comment-page-1#comment-170578 Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:26:50 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15826#comment-170578 @60, Topper -- It's often said that before the age of buggy-whip bats and lineups with five 20-HR batters, a starting pitcher didn't have to bear down on every hitter.

The lineup Verlander faced Thursday had 8 guys with at least 11 HRs and 5 with 25 or more. Not much chance to relax with a few get-'em-over fastballs.

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By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15826/comment-page-1#comment-170576 Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:19:38 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15826#comment-170576 @63 -- Timbo, thy unjust barbs doth sting! There's a lot of room between not supporting the Morris HOF candidacy and hating the man.

I wish my boys had Morris now!

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By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15826/comment-page-1#comment-170574 Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:15:49 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15826#comment-170574 @63, Socratic -- According to the retrosheet box score, Morris threw "only" 126 pitches in that 10-inning shutout, facing 38 batters, for an efficient average of 3.32 pitches apiece. He needed just 8 pitches in each of the last 2 innings.

Besides an intentional walk, Morris had only four 3-ball counts, three of them with 2 outs, three with a man in scoring position and a base open; results were 1 walk and 3 outs.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MIN/MIN199110270.shtml

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By: Timothy P. http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15826/comment-page-1#comment-170573 Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:12:44 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15826#comment-170573 @63 That's because Jack Morris is hated here at B-Ref, although he should not be.

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By: SocraticGadfly http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15826/comment-page-1#comment-170474 Fri, 14 Oct 2011 20:42:34 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15826#comment-170474 Hey, Jack Morris' legendary 1991 appearance isn't on here ... and apparently nobody else noticed that yet.

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By: Jason http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15826/comment-page-1#comment-170459 Fri, 14 Oct 2011 20:10:00 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15826#comment-170459 @57-
I can't talk to them now. "Something suddenly came up".

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By: Johnny Twisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15826/comment-page-1#comment-170396 Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:38:09 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15826#comment-170396 Jim Kaat said after two hours, his arm turned into a pumpkin.

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By: topper009 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15826/comment-page-1#comment-170394 Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:35:17 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15826#comment-170394 I am starting to develop a theory on pitch counts that these rain delays got me thinking about. If a pitcher only throws 50 pitches but then has to sit for 2 hours for rain he can't go back in, so if the pitch count was really the controlling factor for pitching fatigue the rain delay shouldn't matter, but it does. Maybe what really matters is just the amount of the pitcher spends during an outing? This would explain why the older guys could throw 150 pitches on 3 days rest for the whole summer - the games went much faster back in the day.

Does anyone really have a good explanation as to why the old timers needed less rest and routinely had higher pitch counts besides they were "tougher" or it was expected of them?

Has anyone ever tried to correlate a decrease in pitching performance based on the time since the first pitch instead of the pitch count?

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