Comments on: 1st Inning Post-Season Intentional Walks http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15634 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Robert http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15634/comment-page-1#comment-163790 Thu, 06 Oct 2011 13:52:52 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15634#comment-163790 @20 I think it was the other way around - Rollie Fingers did that to Johnny Bench in the 1972 world series. Not that you could tell from the play-by-play, but it was the at bat in the top of the 8th: http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/OAK/OAK197210180.shtml

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By: Johnny Twisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15634/comment-page-1#comment-163553 Thu, 06 Oct 2011 05:13:58 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15634#comment-163553 Martinez only struck out Olerud once. It was on 7/30/96. There was a runner on second, and the count was 3-2. Toronto was actually up by 2, however. And Olerud was not having an especially good season, batting 6th. It's hard to believe CLE would pretend to IBB in that situation.

BUT....it looks like you're right! The full articles aren't readable, but the blurbs show that it did happen.
http://snipurl.com/10x5zt

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By: Johnny Twisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15634/comment-page-1#comment-163548 Thu, 06 Oct 2011 05:02:28 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15634#comment-163548 The Reds did that in a '70s World Series game vs the A's, I think. Never heard about it happening to Olerud -- on a 3-2 count, no less? I need to do a Tracer search on this one.

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By: Stu B http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15634/comment-page-1#comment-163493 Thu, 06 Oct 2011 02:43:46 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15634#comment-163493 @18: Perhaps the baseball equivalent of the fake QB spike in football a la Dan Marino vs the Jets.

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By: Fouc33 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15634/comment-page-1#comment-163424 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:57:10 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15634#comment-163424 This isnt really about this subject but I remember watching a Jays game when John Olerud was tearing the league up, we was facing Denis Martinez, their was a runner on second with the jays down by 1 run. With firstbase open they pitched to Olerud. The first 2 pitches were right on the corners to make it 0-2. Martinez through 3 straight balls and then the catcher stood up and signaled for an intentional ball 4, Martinez came set at fired a fastball right down the pipe as the catcher sat down. Strike 3! Havent seen it happen since. Brilliant and risky

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By: Richard Chester http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15634/comment-page-1#comment-163313 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 20:00:23 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15634#comment-163313 @12

Hornsby's NL record of 250 hits was also broken that day by Lefty O'Doul.

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By: Cheese http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15634/comment-page-1#comment-163301 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:48:55 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15634#comment-163301 @9,11,12. Fitting w/ Hornsby. 1929 was his last great year and actually slugged higher than both Ott and Klein. He lead in slugging and OPS/OPS+ and had 400+ TB!

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By: Richard Chester http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15634/comment-page-1#comment-163299 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:48:11 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15634#comment-163299 @13

There are occasions, when a base is open, that the decision to walk the batter will come when the count reaches 3 balls. The intentional walk occurs on the last pitch regardless of whether or not the other pitches were intentionally thrown out of the strike zone or not.

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By: Richard Chester http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15634/comment-page-1#comment-163285 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:30:21 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15634#comment-163285 @13

If you click on the date of the Frank Robinson game you retrieve the box score and the play-by-play. It does show a passed ball with the bases loaded and a subsequent IBB for Robinson.

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By: Robert http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15634/comment-page-1#comment-163279 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:11:31 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15634#comment-163279 I'm not sure if this has ever happened, but I suppose it could happen that the pitcher begins to intentionally walk the batter with bases loaded but there's a wild pitch or passed ball and runners advance. The intentional walk ends up happening with runners on second and third, even though the decision to issue the IBB was made when the bases were loaded.

There the similar case that's probably a lot more common - with bases loaded you throw a wild pitch/passed ball, then decide to issue an IBB since first base is now open. I'm guessing that's what happened for the IBB to Frank Robinson in that list.

Is there any way to find out more information about the IBBs where pitcher had gotten some strikes in the count? The IBB to Jim Edmonds came after David Eckstein stole second, but I didn't see any other cases where the runners advanced during the at bat (I'm sure it happened more, I was only looking at counts with strikes and that's a short list because the data isn't complete). Did the batter swing at one of the intentional balls? Did the pitcher try pitching to the batter, give up a long fly foul ball, then decide to walk them?

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