Comments on: The worst full-time players of the last 50 years http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15045 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Charles http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15045/comment-page-1#comment-154964 Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:48:36 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15045#comment-154964 @78 When the game was played. Peters had a higher BA than all the regulars but one (0.259) and he hit a grand slam HR the previous time he faced the Yankees. He also PH in the 2nd game of the double header. Peters took his hitting seriously andworked hard in batting practice. After the 2nd game, he was batting 0.233, 25 points higher than the team.

In his career he was 16 for 68 as a PH with 4 HRs.

He was 3 for 4 in the ist inning in his career with 6 RBIs, 2b, 3b, no runs

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By: mike ripley http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15045/comment-page-1#comment-152382 Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:35:43 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15045#comment-152382 Having watch Dunn and Rios all year, they had the two worst years I've seen by any players in over 45 years of watching baseball. What's missing in the analysis is how many runners they stranded, especially in make or break situations for the Sox. Had they even had mediocre years, the effect would have been at least 15 more wins.

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By: Kahuna Tuna http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15045/comment-page-1#comment-152343 Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:35:51 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15045#comment-152343 Follow-up note on the 1968 White Sox: The game where the pitcher batted sixth.

To be fair, Gary Peters was a very good hitter. He and Bob Gibson are the only two pitchers I've found who never had a season OPS+ below zero.

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By: All runs scored coming on homers » Baseball-Reference Blog » Blog Archive http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15045/comment-page-1#comment-152340 Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:20:35 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15045#comment-152340 [...] on a comment from another thread here are the players since 1901 to score all of their runs on home runs, minimum 3 [...]

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By: Kahuna Tuna http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15045/comment-page-1#comment-152335 Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:13:04 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15045#comment-152335 Burgess in his White Sox seasons scored exactly as many runs as he had HRs if I remember

That's a claim I had to check. (-;þ You're right, GB — five and five. In 243 games for the White Sox from late '64 to the end of the '67 season, Burgess had 252 plate appearances, 51 RBI, and 31 innings in the field (all of them behind the plate).

during most of the second half of the 1960s . . . the White Sox was one of the poorer offensive teams even for that era.

Those Sox were the modern-day Hitless Wonders. Here’s a mind-bender: In 1968, the Year of the Pitcher, the AL was the worse-hitting league, and the White Sox had an OPS+ of 76 relative to the league. The team’s cleanup hitters (mostly Tommy Davis and Pete Ward) hit nine home runs, with 28 XBH, 62 RBI and a .625 OPS for the whole season. The sixth- and seventh-place hitters drove in 39 and 38 runs, respectively. The leadoff hitters scored 61 runs. White Sox pitchers allowed 3.25 R/G (2.75 team ERA), but the offense was so weak that the club lost 95 games and finished tied for eighth.

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By: Whiz http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15045/comment-page-1#comment-152323 Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:48:05 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15045#comment-152323 @1, Dunn has the most SO in a non-qualified season (assuming he won't reach 503 PA, which appears likely since he is at 448 now and not playing regularly). I say play him every day so he can get off of this list! 14 games at 4 PA per game and he just qualifies for rate stat titles.

Second place is a tie between Melvin Nieves in 1996 (158 SO in 484 PA) and Bo Jackson in 1987 (158 SO in 434 PA). Next was Nieves again with 157 SO in 1997.

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By: 704_Brave http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15045/comment-page-1#comment-152319 Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:36:26 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15045#comment-152319 @70 - I don't really follow the White Sox and all their drama, but before the Tigers really turned it on they actually had an outside shot at the Central despite Dunn and Rios.

I understand your logic about playing Dunn now that they are eliminated, but they are also trying to find out what they have in some of their younger guys now. I wonder what took them so long to call up Viciedo and de Aza from Charlotte. Viciedo is the Cuban defector signed to a 4yr, $10MM deal and de Aza is the Marlins flame out. Looks like both are in the fold for 2012 after performing pretty well with the big club.

But you are right, 2 terrible seasons by 2 guys making a lot of money. I'll tell you what though GM of the past couple years is Alex Anthopolous...to get rid of Wells and Rios and not eat any money??? Unbelievable...

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By: Steve S. http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15045/comment-page-1#comment-152238 Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:53:26 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15045#comment-152238 Chone Figgins is already 33?

Where have I been?

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By: groundball http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15045/comment-page-1#comment-152139 Thu, 15 Sep 2011 07:27:21 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15045#comment-152139 @67. In 1965 (and during most of the second half of the 1960s) I believe the White Sox was one of the poorer offensive teams even for that era. They kept Smoky Burgess around for 3 years in the mid-60s, just to pinch-hit and then they put in a pinch runner for him (Burgess in his White Sox seasons scored exactly as many runs as he had HRs if I remember)

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By: groundball http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15045/comment-page-1#comment-152131 Thu, 15 Sep 2011 07:01:16 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=15045#comment-152131 If anything, that list might be a strike against Ozzie Guillen. As in why the heck does he keep putting those 2 guys out there?

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