Comments on: The reason Red Sox / Yankee games are so long http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14608 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: jiffy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14608/comment-page-1#comment-147169 Tue, 06 Sep 2011 14:52:08 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=14608#comment-147169 @42, Brewer games are interminable often because Fielder and Braun both step out and fix their batting gloves after every pitch.

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By: Richard Chester http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14608/comment-page-1#comment-146201 Mon, 05 Sep 2011 00:02:00 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=14608#comment-146201 @11

I think Chuck Knoblauch was the worst of all. Stepped out of the box after each pitch, adjusted his gloves and did a few other things.

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By: Jeff http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14608/comment-page-1#comment-145749 Sun, 04 Sep 2011 04:36:01 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=14608#comment-145749 I don't need numbers to tell me that batters need to keep their ass in the batter's box between pitches

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By: Johnny Twisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14608/comment-page-1#comment-145667 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 23:36:34 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=14608#comment-145667 I looked at a Mark Buehrle game from July 9 when he pitched 8 innings. It was predicted to last 2:38. It lasted...2:36. What the hell Buehrle? You're supposed to skew the formula.

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By: Johnny Twisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14608/comment-page-1#comment-145663 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 23:31:45 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=14608#comment-145663 I made a couple little changes to my regression formula. I combined hits and walks into one category, to approximate baserunners, and I added plate appearances. Interestingly, I notice that plate appearances actually has a negative correlation with the time of game. Apparently (at least based on the 44 games I analyzed), if the number of pitches and baserunners and pitching changes, etc, stay the same, more PA would imply a slightly *shorter* game. Not sure if that's a result of small sample of game data. Or it could be something like tough at bats slowing pitchers down. I tried removing PA entirely, but the fit wasn't quite as good, so I've left it in.

Anyway, with the New and Improved! formula, that Yanks/Sox game should have lasted 3:46, basically the same as I found before, and 35 minutes fewer than it really did.

I was going to try seeing if the average game this year ended up with an average time through my formula, but I have no idea how to calculate the average mid-inning pitching changes. Anyway, if anyone has a particular game they want to know how long it "should" have lasted, let me know.

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By: Phil Gaskill http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14608/comment-page-1#comment-145576 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:33:24 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=14608#comment-145576 Andy, I do see that I made one big mistake: I forgot to multiply my numbers per team x 2 since there's 2 teams in most games. 😉

But aside from that, please tell me what I missed.

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By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14608/comment-page-1#comment-145571 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:13:32 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=14608#comment-145571 Phil, your starting numbers are incorrect.

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By: Phil Gaskill http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14608/comment-page-1#comment-145559 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 17:44:55 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=14608#comment-145559 @1: Okay, I did the math, like you suggest in your second paragraph.

39 PA (let's round off here) x 3.96 pitches per PA = 154 pitches per team in a Sox/Yanks game.

38 PA x 3.81 pitches per PA = 145 pitches per team in a league-average game.

Difference is all of 9 pitches. If a pitch, as estimated in this thread, takes 35 seconds, we're talking about 315 seconds, which is 5 minutes and 15 seconds.

Maybe my rounding (in both directions, mind you) could conceivably have added up to an error of one pitch. Doesn't change anything.

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By: Charles http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14608/comment-page-1#comment-145546 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 16:47:57 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=14608#comment-145546 Beckett's NYY game times are not unusual for him. His 6 wins vs other teams when he pitches 6-8 innings ranged from 182 to 202 minutes. The Yankee games were 206, 191 for 9 inning away games and 188, 196 for 8.5 inning home game. All his Yankee games were victories with 6-8 innings pitched.

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By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14608/comment-page-1#comment-145519 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 16:00:36 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=14608#comment-145519 Waiting is not equal to baseball.

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