Comments on: Bloops: Rick Ankiel Highlight Reel http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14540 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Jimbo http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14540/comment-page-1#comment-144853 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 14:21:31 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=14540#comment-144853 Wow Ferell really tore it up in the minors, batting .351 and hitting with power.

Looks like one of the greatest all around ballplayers of all time after Ruth when it comes to pitching/hitting. Hall of fame material if he didn't choose (judging by his talent it looks like he chose) to leave mLB.

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By: Jimbo http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14540/comment-page-1#comment-144735 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:58:32 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=14540#comment-144735 Barry Bonds, 11 assists from left field in 2004, at age 39. Strange stat.

Maybe not as weird as 232 walks and a .609 OBP.

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By: Brian Wells http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14540/comment-page-1#comment-144481 Thu, 01 Sep 2011 19:39:36 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=14540#comment-144481 Wes Ferrell won over 20 games 6 times in the majors.He hit 20 or more homers 3 times in the minors AFTER his playing days in the majors.(Not surprisingly,he still holds the major league record for most career homers by a pitcher).

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By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14540/comment-page-1#comment-144467 Thu, 01 Sep 2011 19:07:44 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=14540#comment-144467 @46, Kyle -- Vladdy's arm was erratic even in his prime, hence his very high error total. Barfield was much more effective.

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By: Johnny Twisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14540/comment-page-1#comment-144463 Thu, 01 Sep 2011 18:55:30 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=14540#comment-144463 For one season ('07, I think), Melky Cabrera threw as well as anyone I've seen. During the rest of his Yankee tenure, he was more erratic.

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By: Hartvig http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14540/comment-page-1#comment-144345 Thu, 01 Sep 2011 14:17:27 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=14540#comment-144345 Sorry Kyle but I would challenge you to find one person who's been associated with MLB- as a player, manager, coach, broadcaster, what have you- from the time that Barfield played until now that would agree with your assessment.

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By: Lawrence Azrin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14540/comment-page-1#comment-144340 Thu, 01 Sep 2011 14:06:54 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=14540#comment-144340 @46/ Cameron - "Speaking of pitching+hitting achievements has anyone else ever lead the league in ERA+ and OPS+?"

Bob CARUTHERS, the best two-way player of the 19th century:
1885 St Louis AA: 181 ERA+
1886 St Louis AA: 200 OPS+

For 20th century players (besides Ruth), my #16/Cy Seymour probably comes the closest: 8th in ERA+ in 1897, first in OPS+ in 1905. That season is one of the great forgotten years of the deadball era.

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By: Cameron http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14540/comment-page-1#comment-144324 Thu, 01 Sep 2011 13:23:23 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=14540#comment-144324 By anyone else I mean anyone other than Ruth.

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By: Cameron http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14540/comment-page-1#comment-144322 Thu, 01 Sep 2011 13:18:32 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=14540#comment-144322 Speaking of pitching+hitting achievements has anyone else ever lead the league in ERA+ and OPS+?

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By: Kyle http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/14540/comment-page-1#comment-144265 Thu, 01 Sep 2011 09:46:53 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=14540#comment-144265 Mays, Mantle(when younger and healthy), Vlad, and obviously Ankiel(whose fastball topped out at 99 mph as a 19 year old rookie)have better arms than Barfield. Third base coaches and base runners continued to challenge Barfield which is something many outfielders with guns just don't have happen to them.

But Shoeless Joe Jackson threw a baseball 132 yards (397 feet roughly) on September 27, 1917 and Honus Wagner once won a throwing contest with a rocket that went 407 feet. He also had 56 assists in only 356 games in the outfield while many contemporaries thought he was the best outfielder and shorstop defensively. He made errors early on due to the insane dimensions of Eclipse Park II that was around 490 feet to centerfield. All 3 Eclipse Parks burned down oddly enough.

Assists are a stat that can be misleading... Biggio's first season in centerfield at the age of 37 had 9 assists. Look up how often guys tag up on an outfielder to actually see how IMPOSING his arm is. Ankiel throws absolute bullets from the warning track in right/center field to get a guy trying to tag up from second to third base like it's nothing. He was never a "center fielder" who had once been a 19-20 phenom pitcher who had a ratio of 10 k's every 9 innings while throwing 95 to 99 mph. The way he gunned down Willy Taveras who was 68 out of 75 stealing bases trying to tag from 2nd to 3rd TRUMPS anything Barfield did. Oh... Bo Jackson also had a better arm than Barfield.

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